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Old 12-07-2006, 12:27 PM
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Default Arlington to install a synthetic surface

Looks like the surface will be installed in time for their 2007 meet beginning May 4th 2007. The type of synthetic surface has not been chosen.

Here is the link to the story in bloodhorse:
http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=36657
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Old 12-07-2006, 12:46 PM
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Looks like the nuts go bye bye....

So the last 15 years of bias' that I had put together, adios

To reminisce, I loved betting closers in the slop there, one of my favorite angles

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Old 12-07-2006, 12:53 PM
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I actually just thought of a positive, if there is one. From what I can gather, it will be the only fake dirt track going in the summer because Hollywood in the West, so trainers/owners that are huge fans of this, will obviously want to race at Arlington, so fields could be better and bigger....
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Old 12-07-2006, 12:59 PM
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I also loved betting closers in the slop at Arlington. I think the meet will be a success this summer. It will be real interesting to see their meet compared to Churchills.
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Old 12-07-2006, 01:39 PM
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Closers in the slop have always done well at AP. Come to think of it, closers and stalkers 3-4 wide did pretty good when it was dry as well. Not much adjustment for the bettors, as Arlington was one of the few non-speed biased racetracks.
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Old 12-07-2006, 01:47 PM
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Closers in the slop have always done well at AP. Come to think of it, closers and stalkers 3-4 wide did pretty good when it was dry as well. Not much adjustment for the bettors, as Arlington was one of the few non-speed biased racetracks.
well it used to be when it was hot/dry here for a couple days that the track was cooked solid and speed did real well, no idea how it works at synthetic though
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Old 12-07-2006, 02:43 PM
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i think that for a track like arlington that by and large does not have many biases except for the few mentioned here -- the surface shouldn't make much of a change in the racing. I Do agree though that it is going to bring some extra horses up this summer, which is great for everyone!
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Old 12-07-2006, 03:12 PM
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Arlington's main track has had a dead rail for virtually the entire 2004 and 2005 meets and the first 6 weeks of 2006. Toward the end of the meet, the rail started getting bad again. The dead rail only went away when they were examining the surface trying to figure out what was causing breakdowns.

I think the high clay content had a lot to do with why closers did so well when it was sloppy/muddy.
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Old 12-07-2006, 06:07 PM
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kiss that angle goodbye...no more slop/mud with the all weather track.
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Old 12-08-2006, 12:57 AM
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i thought of u while watching the announcement from espn zone on the noon news...were u there? it was too cold for me to go meet u...as long as repent is wrong about the toxicity of polytrack, i don't have a problem with it...has this stuff been tested by the epa???????

Oh I doubt I am wrong about this.
I bet that by 2008 we will see ER episdoes on NBC where Chicago residents are being treated for polytrak inhalation suffered at Arlington Racetrack.


this is a terrible development.
at some point,
Im going to be reduced to playing just tracks that are too poor to afford a "$10 Million" investment.

cant believe AP is spending that kind of change on a freaking toxic form of fake dirt.


horses die.
its part of racing and always has been.
you dont spend $10M to stop breakdowns.
just stupid.


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Old 12-08-2006, 02:49 AM
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repent have you ever seen a horse breakdown in front of your eyes? Or have you ever seen a horse breakdown and another horse breakdown because they hit that horse? 10 million to prevent any kind of breakdowns is worth every penny....just because you are pathetic and you do not support the safety of horses doesn't mean you can bash poly or any other surface that is kinder to horses safety. Yea you are a true fan of the sport, you are pathetic.
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Old 12-08-2006, 11:15 AM
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to see they hauled out carl nafziger for the press conference---can anyone shed light on his connecs to this for me?
Nafzger has had stalls at Arlington for as long as I can remember. I recent years, most of his operation his been out of KY but for many years, his whole barn was based out of AP. Unbridled ran the first few races of his career at Arlington; I don't know if Street Sense started his career at AP but he did run there at least once. Since Nafzger has won the Derby, the BC Classic and Juvenile, he has national credibility. At least that's why I think they had him there.
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Old 12-08-2006, 11:18 AM
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Carl does not have a vested interest in any company that manufactures a synthetic track. Carl was a trainer that was on the fence when synthetic surfaces were being discussed. He now realizes the benefits of a synthetic surface and wants his horses to be part of it.
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Old 12-08-2006, 11:19 AM
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Oh I doubt I am wrong about this.
I bet that by 2008 we will see ER episdoes on NBC where Chicago residents are being treated for polytrak inhalation suffered at Arlington Racetrack.


this is a terrible development.
at some point,
Im going to be reduced to playing just tracks that are too poor to afford a "$10 Million" investment.

cant believe AP is spending that kind of change on a freaking toxic form of fake dirt.


horses die.
its part of racing and always has been.
you dont spend $10M to stop breakdowns.
just stupid.


Repent
Repent - you are such an enviromentalist.
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Old 12-08-2006, 11:24 AM
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We can only hope polytrack ends up being as revolutionary as stru-flex. The stall product Nafzger was behind 100 percent.
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Old 12-08-2006, 11:26 AM
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We can only hope polytrack ends up being as revolutionary as stru-flex. The stall product Nafzger was behind 100 percent.
Stru-Flex is pretty neat stuff. My trainer doesnt use it, however I have heard many people say good things about it. I have actually laid down in some stru-flex and it isnt that bad at all. Plus it is much cheaper.
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Old 12-08-2006, 11:28 AM
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Ive never heard anyone say anything good about Stru-flex
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Old 12-08-2006, 11:30 AM
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The difference between you and a horse Euro is the horse weighs 1200lbs. When they walk on the struflex all day it turns into almost dust. It gets in their nose, eyes, its brutal.
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Old 12-08-2006, 11:40 AM
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The difference between you and a horse Euro is the horse weighs 1200lbs. When they walk on the struflex all day it turns into almost dust. It gets in their nose, eyes, its brutal.
If i keep eating the way I am....I am going to weigh 1200lbs.
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Old 12-08-2006, 11:41 AM
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haha, lay off those pizzas late at night
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