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eurobounce 12-07-2006 12:27 PM

Arlington to install a synthetic surface
 
Looks like the surface will be installed in time for their 2007 meet beginning May 4th 2007. The type of synthetic surface has not been chosen.

Here is the link to the story in bloodhorse:
http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=36657

Scav 12-07-2006 12:46 PM

:(

Looks like the nuts go bye bye....

So the last 15 years of bias' that I had put together, adios

To reminisce, I loved betting closers in the slop there, one of my favorite angles

:mad: :mad:

Scav 12-07-2006 12:53 PM

I actually just thought of a positive, if there is one. From what I can gather, it will be the only fake dirt track going in the summer because Hollywood in the West, so trainers/owners that are huge fans of this, will obviously want to race at Arlington, so fields could be better and bigger....

eurobounce 12-07-2006 12:59 PM

I also loved betting closers in the slop at Arlington. I think the meet will be a success this summer. It will be real interesting to see their meet compared to Churchills.

JJP 12-07-2006 01:39 PM

Closers in the slop have always done well at AP. Come to think of it, closers and stalkers 3-4 wide did pretty good when it was dry as well. Not much adjustment for the bettors, as Arlington was one of the few non-speed biased racetracks.

Scav 12-07-2006 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJP
Closers in the slop have always done well at AP. Come to think of it, closers and stalkers 3-4 wide did pretty good when it was dry as well. Not much adjustment for the bettors, as Arlington was one of the few non-speed biased racetracks.

well it used to be when it was hot/dry here for a couple days that the track was cooked solid and speed did real well, no idea how it works at synthetic though

brianwspencer 12-07-2006 02:43 PM

i think that for a track like arlington that by and large does not have many biases except for the few mentioned here -- the surface shouldn't make much of a change in the racing. I Do agree though that it is going to bring some extra horses up this summer, which is great for everyone!

JJP 12-07-2006 03:12 PM

Arlington's main track has had a dead rail for virtually the entire 2004 and 2005 meets and the first 6 weeks of 2006. Toward the end of the meet, the rail started getting bad again. The dead rail only went away when they were examining the surface trying to figure out what was causing breakdowns.

I think the high clay content had a lot to do with why closers did so well when it was sloppy/muddy.

sumitas 12-07-2006 06:07 PM

kiss that angle goodbye...no more slop/mud with the all weather track.

repent 12-08-2006 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merasmag
i thought of u while watching the announcement from espn zone on the noon news...were u there? it was too cold for me to go meet u...as long as repent is wrong about the toxicity of polytrack, i don't have a problem with it...has this stuff been tested by the epa???????


Oh I doubt I am wrong about this.
I bet that by 2008 we will see ER episdoes on NBC where Chicago residents are being treated for polytrak inhalation suffered at Arlington Racetrack.


this is a terrible development.
at some point,
Im going to be reduced to playing just tracks that are too poor to afford a "$10 Million" investment.

cant believe AP is spending that kind of change on a freaking toxic form of fake dirt.


horses die.
its part of racing and always has been.
you dont spend $10M to stop breakdowns.
just stupid.


Repent

Habersham000 12-08-2006 02:49 AM

repent have you ever seen a horse breakdown in front of your eyes? Or have you ever seen a horse breakdown and another horse breakdown because they hit that horse? 10 million to prevent any kind of breakdowns is worth every penny....just because you are pathetic and you do not support the safety of horses doesn't mean you can bash poly or any other surface that is kinder to horses safety. Yea you are a true fan of the sport, you are pathetic.

JJP 12-08-2006 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merasmag
to see they hauled out carl nafziger for the press conference---can anyone shed light on his connecs to this for me?

Nafzger has had stalls at Arlington for as long as I can remember. I recent years, most of his operation his been out of KY but for many years, his whole barn was based out of AP. Unbridled ran the first few races of his career at Arlington; I don't know if Street Sense started his career at AP but he did run there at least once. Since Nafzger has won the Derby, the BC Classic and Juvenile, he has national credibility. At least that's why I think they had him there.

eurobounce 12-08-2006 11:18 AM

Carl does not have a vested interest in any company that manufactures a synthetic track. Carl was a trainer that was on the fence when synthetic surfaces were being discussed. He now realizes the benefits of a synthetic surface and wants his horses to be part of it.

eurobounce 12-08-2006 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by repent
Oh I doubt I am wrong about this.
I bet that by 2008 we will see ER episdoes on NBC where Chicago residents are being treated for polytrak inhalation suffered at Arlington Racetrack.


this is a terrible development.
at some point,
Im going to be reduced to playing just tracks that are too poor to afford a "$10 Million" investment.

cant believe AP is spending that kind of change on a freaking toxic form of fake dirt.


horses die.
its part of racing and always has been.
you dont spend $10M to stop breakdowns.
just stupid.


Repent

Repent - you are such an enviromentalist.

The Bid 12-08-2006 11:24 AM

We can only hope polytrack ends up being as revolutionary as stru-flex. The stall product Nafzger was behind 100 percent.

eurobounce 12-08-2006 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bid
We can only hope polytrack ends up being as revolutionary as stru-flex. The stall product Nafzger was behind 100 percent.

Stru-Flex is pretty neat stuff. My trainer doesnt use it, however I have heard many people say good things about it. I have actually laid down in some stru-flex and it isnt that bad at all. Plus it is much cheaper.

The Bid 12-08-2006 11:28 AM

Ive never heard anyone say anything good about Stru-flex

The Bid 12-08-2006 11:30 AM

The difference between you and a horse Euro is the horse weighs 1200lbs. When they walk on the struflex all day it turns into almost dust. It gets in their nose, eyes, its brutal.


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