Charles Town Spill -- 7 of 8 horses DNF.

Calzone Lord · #1 03-01-2012, 05:37 AM

I was at my girlfriends last night for dinner and I bet a stupid basketball game because she doesn't get any horse racing on her cable.

LSU is up 11 points at halftime at home and I think the game is in hand. We go to the casino at halftime for drinks and LSU starts to have a meltdown. They have a chance to win the game and cover with a layup at the buzzer and blow it. They lost in OT.

Anyway, I had already bet a Scooter Davis horse in the 8th race at Charles Town on the computer before I left. Scooter the Shooter claimed him from a low percentage trainer and he popped a 79 Beyer 1st off the claim two starts back. Last out, the jock blew the irons on him coming out of the gate. Winning Beyer par for the class level was only a 68 and Scooter's horse was 4-to-1 on the ML.

I'm seriously having the most miserable time ever watching LSU fucl< up in the 2nd half. People who bet basketball and have to put up with that torture to try and win a bet that pays less than even money... I feel for them.

I get so annoyed that I press up and go to the window and bet Scooter's horse...as you can see thanks to my cell phone camera.

To make a long story short... the leader breaks down going into the turn and Scooter's horse is the only one in the race who actually finishes.

The inquiry sign was up for atleast 30 minutes...but they paid the win, place, and show on the winner. The horse paid $5.60 to win, $7.60 to place, and $7.40 to show. Instead of refunding all exotics -- they also paid the exacta and trifecta as a 3-all or 3-all-all.

I wasn't sure of the rules...but I was expecting the race to be declared a 'no contest' and all bets refunded. Every horse but the leader who broke down was ok. Not sure about the jockeys...a couple of them bit the dust on the turn of a 4.5 furlong sprint and are probably not OK.

Here is the result chart: http://www1.drf.com/drfPDFChartRaces...=20120229&RN=8

One of the craziest races I've ever watched in my entire life.

#2 03-01-2012, 06:00 AM

If that game didn't kill Dale Brown nothing will.

Calzone Lord · #3 03-01-2012, 06:41 AM

Video of the spill at Charles Town...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-rQofsWM9Q

#4 03-01-2012, 06:54 AM

...and still went a 42 for the half.

I checked google news, drf, equidaily, and paulick...no update or mention on the main page...unless it's buried somewhere.

Calzone Lord · #5 03-01-2012, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

...and still went a 42 for the half.

I'm positive that half mile fraction isn't correct. The timing beam at the 1/16th pole was probably tripped by a person or outrider who crossed it by the outside fence to head in the direction of the spill before the #3 got there.

The way I was explained it by a photo finish guy... is that the timing beam starts 20 seconds after the previous quarter mile... and anything that passes the beam after that point will stop the timer. If a spyder is crawling across it, it could trip it. A bird could trip it. A bee could trip it. Tracks like Tampa and Gulfstream that are loaded with insects and birds are notorious for bad clockings. Where as a track like Aqueduct -- New York City in the dead of winter -- is less likey to have those problems. They have a practical swamp with a gator in the infield at Tampa.

golfer · #6 03-01-2012, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I'm positive that half mile fraction isn't correct. The timing beam at the 1/16th pole was probably tripped by a person or outrider who crossed it by the outside fence to head in the direction of the spill before the #3 got there.

The way I was explained it by a photo finish guy... is that the timing beam starts 20 seconds after the previous quarter mile... and anything that passes the beam after that point will stop the timer. If a spyder is crawling across it, it could trip it. A bird could trip it. A bee could trip it. Tracks like Tampa and Gulfstream that are loaded with insects and birds are notorious for bad clockings. Where as a track like Aqueduct -- New York City in the dead of winter -- is less likey to have those problems. They have a practical swamp with a gator in the infield at Tampa.

It's just your average Florida retention pond, and according to a reliable source (initials RG), the gator hasn't been seen in months.

But sea gulls, that's a different story

VOL JACK · #7 03-01-2012, 08:18 AM

Go Vols!!!

cmorioles · #8 03-01-2012, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I'm positive that half mile fraction isn't correct. The timing beam at the 1/16th pole was probably tripped by a person or outrider who crossed it by the outside fence to head in the direction of the spill before the #3 got there.

Thanks for that, we all thought the 42 was correct.

#9 03-01-2012, 08:45 AM

They don't call him Scooter for nothin.

Danzig · #10 03-01-2012, 09:12 AM

what i don't understand is how it wasn't declared no contest.

cmorioles · #11 03-01-2012, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

what i don't understand is how it wasn't declared no contest.

Easy, money.

Danzig · #12 03-01-2012, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles

Easy, money.

so the lost takeout would be higher than purse money and winning wagers paid? well, i guess it must be if that's what they did.
probably explains the half hour inquiry, they were crunching numbers.

MaTH716 · #13 03-01-2012, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles

Easy, money.

What happens to the purse money for 2nd, 3rd, etc....?

dagolfer33 · #14 03-01-2012, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

If that game didn't kill Dale Brown nothing will.

We need Dale to come back and coach now.

cmorioles · #15 03-01-2012, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

What happens to the purse money for 2nd, 3rd, etc....?

The chart indicates it was paid to the winner. I'm not sure that is right, I thought usually it just reverts back to the purse fund. Who knows what they do at CT though?

dagolfer33 · #16 03-01-2012, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

what i don't understand is how it wasn't declared no contest.

I saw this happen live last night, and since Doug admitted to betting on the race I will admit it as well.

How is this not stealing from the bettors? I can understand WPS payouts, but EX- TRI- SF bets should be refunded in this case. ALL PLAYERS get screwed and the track gets over on people?????

dagolfer33 · #17 03-01-2012, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Video of the spill at Charles Town...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-rQofsWM9Q

The hardest thing to understand in this whole situation is......how can you bet on LSU....they are so erratic it's unnerving. I went to the PMAC and watched the GA game last Wed. and they should have been up the whole game by 15, but it was close to the end, they don't do the little things very well sometimes and it costs them.

Bigsmc · #18 03-01-2012, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

what i don't understand is how it wasn't declared no contest.

Why would it be? Because of excessive non finishers? Where do you draw the line? When a horse breaks down and two or three others fall over him and lose jocks, nobody says those races should be no contests. Now, seven don't finish and its should be a no contest?

I don't get it.

robfla · #19 03-01-2012, 10:32 AM

why was there a consolation "ALL" paid on the pick 3 and double closing in that race? Doesn't seem right if they paid the win slot. I guess that's WV for you.

robfla · #20 03-01-2012, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc

Why would it be? Because of excessive non finishers? Where do you draw the line? When a horse breaks down and two or three others fall over him and lose jocks, nobody says those races should be no contests. Now, seven don't finish and its should be a no contest?

I don't get it.

I believe some states have rules on how many starters must finish in order for it to be an official race