The Wood

Gin talking · #1 04-09-2011, 04:57 PM

Loved to see Uncle Mo beat! Run your horses trainers!

johnny pinwheel · #2 04-09-2011, 05:01 PM

i guess that answers the distance question....... he can't run it....c'mon those puke horses just kicked your uncle mo in!!!!!!uncle mo eats wood.......priceless..........uncle mo, uncle mo......lol

Gin talking · #3 04-09-2011, 05:09 PM

How many other trainers are now regreting not going in the wood? Super happy for Motion...

GPK · #4 04-09-2011, 05:13 PM

Was that really a Jose "the choke" Ferrer sighting in the Bay Shore?

Indian Charlie · #5 04-09-2011, 06:18 PM

The distance had nothing to do with it, JPH.

3kings · #6 04-09-2011, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

The distance had nothing to do with it, JPH.

How do you know? Didn't have anything left in the tank after a mile, at least no turn of foot he has shown in the past. He could have been short but from the connection speak it sounded like they had him ready. He could be hurt. We should find out this week. The third option is he isn't going to get 10 furlongs.

Indian Charlie · #7 04-09-2011, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 3kings

How do you know? Didn't have anything left in the tank after a mile, at least no turn of foot he has shown in the past. He could have been short but from the connection speak it sounded like they had him ready. He could be hurt. We should find out this week. The third option is he isn't going to get 10 furlongs.

I answered this in the Wood thread, but to summarize my already short post there, I thought he didn't get over the track well at all. Either due to dislike of the track, or soreness.

3kings · #8 04-09-2011, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I answered this in the Wood thread, but to summarize my already short post there, I thought he didn't get over the track well at all. Either due to dislike of the track, or soreness.

Both are ceartainly possible........I'm still not sold he can get 10 panels. Chances are we may not get a chance to find out

Indian Charlie · #9 04-09-2011, 06:45 PM

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Both are ceartainly possible........I'm still not sold he can get 10 panels. Chances are we may not get a chance to find out

If he's sound, healthy, etc and in the gate for the Derby, he should still win, now just at a bigger price.

That is a big freaking IF though.

Princess Doreen · #10 04-09-2011, 06:59 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...aul&id=6317906

Trainer Todd Pletcher said afterwards that Uncle Mo grabbed his left-front quarter, shearing off a piece of the hoof wall the size of a quarter while leaving the gate sharply in what appeared to be a clean break, but would not use the mishap as an excuse. Uncle Mo's immediate future, however, is uncertain.

"He grabbed a quarter leaving the gate," Pletcher said. "It didn't help but I'm not using that as an excuse. After that, he was kind of hounded early on. The fractions were reasonable. It was his first time going a mile and an eighth, first time over the Aqueduct surface. I was a little concerned turning for home at the three-sixteenths pole when he didn't really kick clear. I thought then that we were going to be in for a fight. You could see the last fifty to sixty yards he was tired.

richard burch · #11 04-09-2011, 07:51 PM

uncle blow.

the best was listening to repole on hrtv saying if he was zito he shouldn't be "impressed' with dialed in's performance in the fla derby.

not to mention that he closed on a speed favoring rack.

i hope mo gets the #1 post in the derby.

Indian Charlie · #12 04-09-2011, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by richard burch

uncle blow.

the best was listening to repole on hrtv saying if he was zito he shouldn't be "impressed' with dialed in's performance in the fla derby.

not to mention that he closed on a speed favoring rack.

i hope mo gets the #1 post in the derby.

Yeah, and I hope you get a brain finally.

At least your hope has a 5% chance of coming true.

hockey2315 · #13 04-09-2011, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by richard burch

not to mention that he closed on a speed favoring track.

Zito has really fooled everyone on this one.

richard burch · #14 04-09-2011, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Yeah, and I hope you get a brain finally.

At least your hope has a 5% chance of coming true.

we will see big shot. i also hope zito's horse laughs at him as runs right past him.

if he even shows up.

fpsoxfan · #15 04-09-2011, 08:09 PM

I really love reading stupid post like many of the above. I'm thinking that many are tongue in cheek. With Uncle Moe losing we saw derby odds change from 3/2 to 4/1.. Maybe.

slotdirt · #16 04-09-2011, 09:01 PM

It's fine to hate Uncle Mo, but how many folks are going to bet Toby's Corner in the Derby? As much as I think Motion is a good dude, if the choice is between Uncle Mo and Toby's Corner on May 7th, I'm taking Uncly 100 times out of 100.

NTamm1215 · #17 04-09-2011, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

It's fine to hate Uncle Mo, but how many folks are going to bet Toby's Corner in the Derby? As much as I think Motion is a good dude, if the choice is between Uncle Mo and Toby's Corner on May 7th, I'm taking Uncly 100 times out of 100.

Really?

If you're betting on Uncle Mo in this year's Derby you are doing it based on something that has not even happened in 2011. You'd be doing it based on 2YO form and, I needn't even really say it, is a horrible approach in a race like the Derby.

Toby's Corner is not much horse but he at least is going to get a good pace setup in the Derby (more likely than not) and responded kindly to an equipment change for a good trainer.

MaTH716 · #18 04-09-2011, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

It's fine to hate Uncle Mo, but how many folks are going to bet Toby's Corner in the Derby? As much as I think Motion is a good dude, if the choice is between Uncle Mo and Toby's Corner on May 7th, I'm taking Uncly 100 times out of 100.

I have no idea why there is all the hate for uncle Mo. I guess it's easy to come out and say stuff after the race is done and the horse laid an egg. But if you really didn't like him (for whatever reason), maybe some people should have took the time and figured out a way to cash out on what could have been a dream opportunity to make some cash. After all, you don't find to many vulnerable 1/9 shots around.
But I guess they would rather wait and hope the horse bombed and then just make tons of stupid coments instead.

Hickory Hill Hoff · #19 04-09-2011, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

I really love reading stupid post like many of the above. I'm thinking that many are tongue in cheek. With Uncle Moe losing we saw derby odds change from 3/2 to 4/1.. Maybe.

I would have rather seen him run "this race" the 1st Saturday in May though.....

watch, he'll probably win the Derby by a half dozen lengths!

slotdirt · #20 04-09-2011, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Really?

If you're betting on Uncle Mo in this year's Derby you are doing it based on something that has not even happened in 2011. You'd be doing it based on 2YO form and, I needn't even really say it, is a horrible approach in a race like the Derby.

Toby's Corner is not much horse but he at least is going to get a good pace setup in the Derby (more likely than not) and responded kindly to an equipment change for a good trainer.

Given that the form of 99.83 percent of 3YO's in 2011 has been mediocre to poor, going off the juvenile champion's form is probably just as worthwhile in a dart board race like the Kentucky Derby as any other handicapping method, IMO. Particularly off ONE poor start.

Six times in the last ten years a horse has won the Derby off a loss in his last prep.