You have to be kidding me

Scav · #1 07-13-2008, 11:06 PM

http://www.hawthorneracecourse.com/p...ess_school.php

I hit big in Vegas and THIS IS GONNA HAPPEN

westcoastinvader · #2 07-13-2008, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

http://www.hawthorneracecourse.com/p...ess_school.php

I hit big in Vegas and THIS IS GONNA HAPPEN

If you do that harness racing stuff and get hurt, I'm sure someone will be "johnny on the spot" to fix it!

Heck, I'd do that ride, too.

Just don't bet the trotters and pacers. Art Bier and Northfield took away my pleasure in betting that sport forever.

Seriously, that sounds like a fun use of $$.

Scav · #3 07-13-2008, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by westcoastinvader

If you do that harness racing stuff and get hurt, I'm sure someone will be "johnny on the spot" to fix it!

Heck, I'd do that ride, too.

Just don't bet the trotters and pacers. Art Bier and Northfield took away my pleasure in betting that sport forever.

I am doing it, three friends, my dad and I...As long as I get Dave Magee in my bike I am 1/5

ELA · #4 07-13-2008, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by westcoastinvader

If you do that harness racing stuff and get hurt, I'm sure someone will be "johnny on the spot" to fix it!

Heck, I'd do that ride, too.

Just don't bet the trotters and pacers. Art Bier and Northfield took away my pleasure in betting that sport forever.

Seriously, that sounds like a fun use of $$.

Good promotion.

Art Bier -- LOL, there's a blast from the past. Eventually made his way to the Meadowlands. His children are in the game now.

Eric

PPerfectfan · #5 07-13-2008, 11:17 PM

I have always wanted to do that!!!!! Man, I wish I lived closer, I would so be there,,,and Scav, you would go down!!!

eajinabi · #6 07-13-2008, 11:19 PM

i would rather race TB

westcoastinvader · #7 07-13-2008, 11:34 PM

Art Bier -- LOL, there's a blast from the past. Eventually made his way to the Meadowlands. His children are in the game now.

My brother was in a golf tournament with Art Bier once, and he said Art was a pretty nice guy in person that day.

But honest to goodness, being at Northfield for years completely cured any betting desire I might have to bet any driver in a sulky.

ALostTexan · #8 07-13-2008, 11:43 PM

That does look really fun. I have always heard how cool it is to ride in the starter's car, but this would be a hell of alot cooler...

TheSpyder · #9 07-14-2008, 05:33 AM

Remember Ray Sugg...what was he 280 lbs. I felt sorry for any horse having to cart his ass around.

Spyder

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Originally Posted by westcoastinvader

Art Bier -- LOL, there's a blast from the past. Eventually made his way to the Meadowlands. His children are in the game now.

My brother was in a golf tournament with Art Bier once, and he said Art was a pretty nice guy in person that day.

But honest to goodness, being at Northfield for years completely cured any betting desire I might have to bet any driver in a sulky.

herkhorse · #10 07-14-2008, 05:49 AM

I've always wanted to ride in a sulky. If Vernon Downs had that, I'd be there in a heartbeat. I don't know if I could figure out how to drive a horse, but if I could, I know I would make better decisions than half of those idiots.

-BT- · #11 07-14-2008, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav

I am doing it, three friends, my dad and I...As long as I get Dave Magee in my bike I am 1/5

i'm old school, give me joe anderson.... he used to tear that circuit up back in the day

-bt-

cowgirlintexas · #12 07-14-2008, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by -BT-

i'm old school, give me joe anderson.... he used to tear that circuit up back in the day

-bt-

Looks like his son Ryan is walking in his foot steps as well.

GPK · #13 07-14-2008, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav

I am doing it, three friends, my dad and I...As long as I get Dave Magee in my bike I am 1/5

Oosting and I will kick yall's ass

ELA · #14 07-14-2008, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder

Remember Ray Sugg...what was he 280 lbs. I felt sorry for any horse having to cart his ass around.

Spyder

If you are talking about the driver/trainer from OH, not sure if he had a brother or something, but you might be talking about Ivan Sugg. He had his kids in the business with him as well. It was very sad, but one of the sons died of cancer when he was young (late 20's, 30's maybe). ANd yes, Ivan was a bit of a big boy.

Eric

ELA · #15 07-14-2008, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by westcoastinvader

Art Bier -- LOL, there's a blast from the past. Eventually made his way to the Meadowlands. His children are in the game now.

My brother was in a golf tournament with Art Bier once, and he said Art was a pretty nice guy in person that day.

But honest to goodness, being at Northfield for years completely cured any betting desire I might have to bet any driver in a sulky.

As a person to hang out with, Art was a pretty nice guy. Great sense of humor, great stories from back in the day. According to the stories, he was just -- well, he was what he was. LOL. I think by the time he got to the Meadowlands, he had a small stable, with a few owners and was just looking to make a living. His one son became a driver and moved around a bit (Poconos, Pompano). The other son trained with Art and I don't know where he ended up. The youngest son you just knew was going to become a driver. He had the bug for it and more so the hands for it since he was a little kid. He started driving as soon as he could. I don't know where he is today.

Eric

oilertige · #16 07-14-2008, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ELA

If you are talking about the driver/trainer from OH, not sure if he had a brother or something, but you might be talking about Ivan Sugg. He had his kids in the business with him as well. It was very sad, but one of the died of cancer when he was young (late 20's, 30's maybe). ANd yes, Ivan was a bit of a big boy.

Eric

Eric, right on with the Sugg family info; they are out of tiny Deshler, OH my hometown! Father Ivan, a very successful trainer (won the 2003 Pacing Triple Crown with No Pan Intended) and his sons, Kurt and Duke who are currently drivers and as mentioned, his oldest son Steve, who was a very good driver until cancer claimed his life way too young. Just a terrific harness racing family!

ELA · #17 07-14-2008, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by oilertige

Eric, right on with the Sugg family info; they are out of tiny Deshler, OH my hometown! Father Ivan, a very successful trainer (won the 2003 Pacing Triple Crown with No Pan Intended) and his sons, Kurt and Duke who are currently drivers and as mentioned, his oldest son Steve, who was a very good driver until cancer claimed his life way too young. Just a terrific harness racing family!

Yep, that's it -- Deshler, OH. I met Ivan, his wife and all three sons one year at The Red Mile. This was probably early 90's. Steve, as you said, the oldest, was a very nice young man. Very polite, humble, and just seemed like he had character. He was getting married around that time. It wasn't until Steve had left the barn area that Ivan told me that Steve had cancer and was going to be starting treatment very soon.

We talked a bit about horses and Ivan seemed like one of those ol' fashioned, ol' time, horsemen. It was a pleasure meeting the family.

Eric

westcoastinvader · #18 07-14-2008, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ELA

As a person to hang out with, Art was a pretty nice guy. Great sense of humor, great stories from back in the day. According the the stories, he was just -- well, he was what he was. LOL. I think by the time he got to the Meadowlands, he had a small stable, with a few owners and was just looking to make a living. His one son became a driver and moved around a bit (Poconos, Pompano). The other son trained with Art and I don't know where he ended up. The youngest son you just knew was going to become a driver. He had the bug for it and more so the hands for it since he was a little kid. He started driving as soon as he could. I don't know where he is today.

Eric

I didn't know Art Bier had a son driving.

A google search leads me to believe it must be Sean. From a cursory google view, looks like Sean has driven in New Hampshire and Delaware of late.

ELA · #19 07-14-2008, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by westcoastinvader

I didn't know Art Bier had a son driving.

A google search leads me to believe it must be Sean. From a cursory google view, looks like Sean has driven in New Hampshire and Delaware of late.

The first son to drive was Daryl. I don't remember if he was the oldest or not. The next son never drove. He went to college and went to work with Art, kind of like a second/assistant trainer. I just don't remember his name. The youngest son was Sean.

Eric

westcoastinvader · #20 07-14-2008, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ELA

The first son to drive was Daryl. I don't remember if he was the oldest or not. The next son never drove. He went to college and went to work with Art, kind of like a second/assistant trainer. I just don't remember his name. The youngest son was Sean.

Eric

I watched Art Bier drive back in my college days. We used to joke that he should have a wife or daughter named "Anita."

(Anita Bier......)