Belmont Thursday- R8 -- 12 FL

[MisterB]

75,000-4 and up

1 Evening Attire (KY) 10 Gelding 120 Cornelio H. Velasquez
2 Delosvientos (KY) 5 Gelding 120 Eibar Coa
3 Malibu Moonshine (FL) 6 Horse 123 Rajiv Maragh
4 No Reply (KY) 4 Gelding 118 Alan Garcia
5 Successful Affair (NY) 6 Gelding 120 Kent J. Desormeaux
6 Arcata (FL) 4 Colt 123 Edgar S. Prado
7 Tergesti (NY) 6 Gelding 118 Channing Hill

Did Moonshine win this last year?

[philcski]

Malibu Moonshine is also entered in a classified allowance race at Pimlico on Friday, but I suspect he'll go here.

[cakes44]

Evening Attire gate to wire in this one.

[blackthroatedwind]

A thrilling prep for the BC. That BC Marathon is going to be a real humdinger.

[parsixfarms]

I don't know if it went by the same name, but didn't a Dutrow horse, coming off a NW1X allowance win at Gulfstream, win a nearly identical race a year ago, in what would be the second-to-last race of Funny Cide's career.

[blackthroatedwind]

Yes. It was the day before the Preakness I believe. I know I watched it at Pimlico. Not sure that Dutrow horse, who ran an amazing race out of virtually nowhere, ever ran again.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

I don't know if it went by the same name, but didn't a Dutrow horse, coming off a NW1X allowance win at Gulfstream, win a nearly identical race a year ago, in what would be the second-to-last race of Funny Cide's career.

Ironically, that was called the Wagon Limit stakes.

The name of the winner escapes me though.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

A thrilling prep for the BC. That BC Marathon is going to be a real humdinger.

With all the discussion about the breeding for speed, speed, and more speed in the aftermath of the Derby, I think it's a good idea to offer money to and promote horses that can stay a distance of ground. This is sadly lacking from the overnight program - both on dirt and turf - at almost all tracks in this country. I don't know if it's a chicken or the egg situation; that is, is it that racing secretaries don't write such races or horsemen don't enter when they are written? Not that I'm advocating for a steady diet of races at what now would be considered odd distances (I'd start with a return of the more standard 11-13F turf races that we rarely see anymore, except at Keeneland), but my impression was that the 2 mile race that NYRA carded on Alabama Day last year, for example, was generally well received.

The problem with the BC "Marathon" (this would be a middle-distance race in Europe) this year is that, insofar as they have not been able to over time develop horses for these types of races, the only ones likely to compete in it this year are Grade III-types not able to compete at the highest level at 9-10F. That being said, I don't have a problem with giving $500K for such a race. We already do it with shorter races that draw similar fields such as the Hawthorne Gold Cup and Mass Cap.

[blackthroatedwind]

The name of the Dutrow horse was Rising Moon.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by philcski

Ironically, that was called the Wagon Limit stakes.

The name of the winner escapes me though.

Found it. The winner was Rising Moon: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/horse...25763140_x.htm. And my sense is also that he has not run since.

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

The problem with the BC "Marathon" (this would be a middle-distance race in Europe)

The Arc is considered a middle-distance race in Europe?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

With all the discussion about the breeding for speed, speed, and more speed in the aftermath of the Derby, I think it's a good idea to offer money to and promote horses that can stay a distance of ground. This is sadly lacking from the overnight program - both on dirt and turf - at almost all tracks in this country. I don't know if it's a chicken or the egg situation; that is, is it that racing secretaries don't write such races or horsemen don't enter when they are written? Not that I'm advocating for a steady diet of races at what now would be considered odd distances (I'd start with a return of the more standard 11-13F turf races that we rarely see anymore, except at Keeneland), but my impression was that the 2 mile race that NYRA carded on Alabama Day last year, for example, was generally well received.

The problem with the BC "Marathon" (this would be a middle-distance race in Europe) this year is that, insofar as they have not been able to over time develop horses for these types of races, the only ones likely to compete in it this year are Grade III-types not able to compete at the highest level at 9-10F. That being said, I don't have a problem with giving $500K for such a race. We already do it with shorter races that draw similar fields such as the Hawthorne Gold Cup and Mass Cap.

I agree with you.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by cakes44

The Arc is considered a middle-distance race in Europe?

I believe so. Their marathons are the Cup races usually contested at distances of 2 miles or more.

[MISTERGEE]

havent seen thur. form yet by Iadesernia and Delosvientos may like it in NY and take it from gate to wire-- at 5-2 though hard to get excited

[philcski]

Originally Posted by philcski

Malibu Moonshine is also entered in a classified allowance race at Pimlico on Friday, but I suspect he'll go here.

Guess I was wrong. Goes Friday @ Pimlico.

Originally Posted by MISTERGEE

havent seen thur. form yet by Iadesernia and Delosvientos may like it in NY and take it from gate to wire-- at 5-2 though hard to get excited

Nice call. 3-1 in a 5 horse field ain't bad.

[MISTERGEE]

Originally Posted by MISTERGEE

havent seen thur. form yet by Iadesernia and Delosvientos may like it in NY and take it from gate to wire-- at 5-2 though hard to get excited

$8.30 for the win