I’m guessing Justify is done.

[cakes44]

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...-plans-on-hold

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by cakes44

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...-plans-on-hold

done until he gets better

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by cakes44

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...-plans-on-hold

I think you are right. You can't take a chance with a horse this valuable. I would have made the chances of him being retired about 60-70% after they found the filling. Now that the filling has come back, I would make the chances about 95%.

[freddymo]

I hope he races again. I hope they don't "soft tissue" us and tell us it is in the best interest of the horse. Let them say we can't afford to miss the business opportunity that a TC winner affords the ownership.

[FATPIANO]

He was done as soon as he passed the finish line in the Belmont. He will never race again..period the end

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I hope he races again. I hope they don't "soft tissue" us and tell us it is in the best interest of the horse. Let them say we can't afford to miss the business opportunity that a TC winner affords the ownership.

It will probably be the type of issue that requires 2 months off. It would take another 3 months of training before he would be ready to run. So he wouldn't be ready to run until December. He would miss all the big races this year.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by FATPIANO

He was done as soon as he passed the finish line in the Belmont. He will never race again..period the end

That is completely untrue. He would have definitely run again. American Pharaoh ran again.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

That is completely untrue. He would have definitely run again. American Pharaoh ran again.

Horrible analogy.

[moses]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

It will probably be the type of issue that requires 2 months off. It would take another 3 months of training before he would be ready to run. So he wouldn't be ready to run until December. He would miss all the big races this year.

If he runs again then, it’ll be the Pegasus World Cup. But I don’t think he runs again.

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

That is completely untrue. He would have definitely run again. American Pharaoh ran again.

Good analogy. American Pharoah continued to do well and great owners brought him to Saratoga giving the fans a real treat, even though he got picked up. If Justify continued to do well, they would have done the same. To me if you have a hoss that good, why would you not keep running. Winning doesn’t get old.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Horrible analogy.

Huh? Unless I misunderstood his point, Fatpiano was saying that the horse was automatically retired right when he won the TC, because a TC winner is too valuable to race. My point was that that is not true at all. We just had a TC winner a couple of years ago and he continued running. But even aside from that, it would be very rare for a sound horse who is doing well to be retired in the middle of the year, even after winning the TC. Guys don't retire sound horses on winning streaks in the middle of the year. It doesn't happen. I can't ever remember it happening. Horses often retire in the middle of the year if they get hurt, but not if they're sound and running well. There is a fallacy out there that owners make up injuries so they have an excuse to retire their horse. It is a complete myth. An owner doesn't feel like he has to make an excuse to retire his horse. It's a business decision. Horses are retired all the time (at the end of the year). Nobody feels guilty about retiring a horse.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Huh? Unless I misunderstood his point, Fatpiano was saying that the horse was automatically retired right when he won the TC, because a TC winner is too valuable to race. My point was that that is not true at all. We just had a TC winner a couple of years ago and he continued running. But even aside from that, it would be very rare for a sound horse who is doing well to be retired in the middle of the year, even after winning the TC. Guys don't retire sound horses on winning streaks in the middle of the year. It doesn't happen. I can't ever remember it happening. Horses often retire in the middle of the year if they get hurt, but not if they're sound and running well. There is a fallacy out there that owners make up injuries so they have an excuse to retire their horse. It is a complete myth. An owner doesn't feel like he has to make an excuse to retire his horse. It's a business decision. Horses are retired all the time (at the end of the year). Nobody feels guilty about retiring a horse.

You sure extrapolated a lot from one sentence from Fatpiano. I am guessing Justify's stud deal is a lot different ( both in dollars and incentives ) than American Pharoah's deal. Zayat sold Pharoah's stud rights during his 2YO year. He got substantial kickers, as I'm sure you must know, for winning races like the Haskell, Travers, and BC Classic. This likely played a role in his continued racing...which is why I believe the situations are not analogous.

Then again, the biggest idiot on this board agreed with you, so there's that too.

[freddymo]

I recently made a small wager that Justify would race again. I will be losing that one.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I recently made a small wager that Justify would race again. I will be losing that one.

Did you have to pay in advance?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Did you have to pay in advance?

I should clarify that to avoid any potential issue. Thx

[Konk]

Justify??
Old news.
It's time for AX MAN!

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by Konk

Justify??
Old news.
It's time for AX MAN!

AX MAN is NO Justify his last race proves that

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Then again, the biggest idiot on this board agreed with you, so there's that too.

I really don’t remember agreeing with his post?!

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

It will probably be the type of issue that requires 2 months off. It would take another 3 months of training before he would be ready to run. So he wouldn't be ready to run until December. He would miss all the big races this year.

The armchair veterinarian has logged on.

[Dawgswin]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

Good analogy. American Pharoah continued to do well and great owners brought him to Saratoga giving the fans a real treat, even though he got picked up. If Justify continued to do well, they would have done the same. To me if you have a hoss that good, why would you not keep running. Winning doesn’t get old.

I’ll go one better, it ain’t even an analogy.