Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Main Forum > The Paddock
Reload this Page Giacomo
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-01-2006, 02:48 PM
Cajungator26's Avatar
Cajungator26 Cajungator26 is offline
Keeneland
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Hossy's Mom's basement.
Posts: 10,217
Default Giacomo
This colt looks excellent training over the cushion track at Hollywood Park. He's got higher knee action...

I won't be tossing him as I originally planned to.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-01-2006, 04:19 PM
Hickory Hill Hoff's Avatar
Hickory Hill Hoff Hickory Hill Hoff is offline
Newmarket
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: the "Sand Flats"
Posts: 6,903
Default
He's your "price" horse in triples and supers...don't leave him off your ticket!
__________________
"Change can be good, but constant change shows no direction"

http://www.hickoryhillhoff.blogspot.com/
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-01-2006, 04:47 PM
disappearingdan_akaplaya's Avatar
disappearingdan_akaplaya disappearingdan_akaplaya is offline
Gulfstream Park
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: chicago
Posts: 1,217
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cajungator26
This colt looks excellent training over the cushion track at Hollywood Park. He's got higher knee action...

I won't be tossing him as I originally planned to.

ya shouldnt anyways cajun, as we all know he ran the biggest race of his life over the surface. too bad all of us didnt have him@the windows that day. i had a horse instead who had the lead at the top of the lane for ummmmmmmmmm all of bout 0.8 seconds named high fly lol
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-01-2006, 04:56 PM
Bernardini's Avatar
Bernardini Bernardini is offline
Bowie
  
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: KY
Posts: 203
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cajungator26
This colt looks excellent training over the cushion track at Hollywood Park. He's got higher knee action...

I won't be tossing him as I originally planned to.
Thats one problem with handicapping this race, too many good horses !!! and they all look good...
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-01-2006, 05:25 PM
SCUDSBROTHER's Avatar
SCUDSBROTHER SCUDSBROTHER is offline
Flemington
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: L.A.
Posts: 11,326
Default
I'm pretty sure he will be disgusted and be dull if the pace is moderate.On the other hand, if they give him a sharp pace,he will look totally different out there(his stride will look great,and he will be ready to make a run towards the front.) When they go into the turn,if he is within 5 lengths of the lead,then he usually won't run well(the reason he ran reasonably well last time was the pace was decent,not hot,but decent..he wanted it hotter..Nakatani didn't oblige him.).If he is 7 or 8 lengths out of the lead,then the pace is probably pretty good ,and he has a chance to make the board.If he is like 10-15 lengths back,and they are running a 22'3 or something,then G haterz beware.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-01-2006, 05:29 PM
1st_Saturday_in_May 1st_Saturday_in_May is offline
Washington Park
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 844
Default
No thanks. I was checking his Beyers (cause Rags and **** are too expensive) and it looks like he's due for a regression off his last.
__________________
Reppin the Duquesne University class of 2009 . (Then its time to get a real job )

I cant believe what a bunch of nerds we are. We're looking up money laundering in the dictionary.

www.myspace.com/dustinfabian
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-01-2006, 05:32 PM
Pointg5 Pointg5 is offline
Sheepshead Bay
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,096
Default
No regression with him, I haven't been his biggest fan, but there's no reason he can't be 2 if it's white hot, 3rd mildly hot, or 4th off of an avg pace...I see a very hot pace and think he could run 2nd, he likes the track and distance...
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-01-2006, 05:36 PM
1st_Saturday_in_May 1st_Saturday_in_May is offline
Washington Park
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 844
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pointg5
No regression with him, I haven't been his biggest fan, but there's no reason he can't be 2 if it's white hot, 3rd mildly hot, or 4th off of an avg pace...I see a very hot pace and think he could run 2nd, he likes the track and distance...
Man, I dunno. I'm looking at his Beyer figs and the horse just seems slooooooow

104
99
100
96
103
85
97
100
95
93
98

Only ITM 50% (2 of 4 at 10f) and honestly I just dont put much into his effort at CD because that race was just too ****ed up with Chestnut going 45 1/5, 1:09 2/5 early...
__________________
Reppin the Duquesne University class of 2009 . (Then its time to get a real job )

I cant believe what a bunch of nerds we are. We're looking up money laundering in the dictionary.

www.myspace.com/dustinfabian
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-01-2006, 05:38 PM
Pointg5 Pointg5 is offline
Sheepshead Bay
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,096
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1st_Saturday_in_May
Man, I dunno. I'm looking at his Beyer figs and the horse just seems slooooooow

104
99
100
96
103
85
97
100
95
93
98

Only ITM 50% (2 of 4 at 10f) and honestly I just dont put much into his effort at CD because that race was just too ****ed up with Chestnut going 45 1/5, 1:09 2/5 early...
He's not fast that fast, but I believe the pace will be hot. He won't regress off of that last race fig, he's already hit that level before, there's no reason to see a regression.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-01-2006, 05:54 PM
1st_Saturday_in_May 1st_Saturday_in_May is offline
Washington Park
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 844
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pointg5
He's not fast that fast, but I believe the pace will be hot. He won't regress off of that last race fig, he's already hit that level before, there's no reason to see a regression.
Appreciate the info Mwind, even if you are a Bengals fan . Maybe Giac-strap can get up for the show but I'm leaning against. Sun King's my closer!
__________________
Reppin the Duquesne University class of 2009 . (Then its time to get a real job )

I cant believe what a bunch of nerds we are. We're looking up money laundering in the dictionary.

www.myspace.com/dustinfabian
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 11-01-2006, 06:00 PM
Pointg5 Pointg5 is offline
Sheepshead Bay
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,096
Default
If the Bengals lose Sunday, that pretty much means Baltimore wins the Division...

Merrill Hoge lives around here and does a weekly radio program, he said the Steelers are still going to win the Division....
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 11-01-2006, 06:19 PM
SCUDSBROTHER's Avatar
SCUDSBROTHER SCUDSBROTHER is offline
Flemington
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: L.A.
Posts: 11,326
Default
P DRIFT is the more consistent price horse for the exotics.I don't think he needs the hot pace,and he has been top 3 in every race he has had here.9 starts..1 win..3 seconds,and 5 third place finishes.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 11-01-2006, 07:07 PM
Rileyoriley's Avatar
Rileyoriley Rileyoriley is offline
Arlington Park
  
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: The Snowy Woods
Posts: 4,484
Default
Giacamo has looked great all week. I'll box him with Bernardini.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 11-01-2006, 07:58 PM
Hickory Hill Hoff's Avatar
Hickory Hill Hoff Hickory Hill Hoff is offline
Newmarket
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: the "Sand Flats"
Posts: 6,903
Default Too many blows to the head?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pointg5
If the Bengals lose Sunday, that pretty much means Baltimore wins the Division...

Merrill Hoge lives around here and does a weekly radio program, he said the Steelers are still going to win the Division....
I'm a "die-hard" STEELER fan, but Merril's comments are a longshot, like Giacomo winning the Classic. Last week's lost to Oakland was the back-breaker. Ben shouldn't have played and he might end up like Merrill, with a short career from too many hits to the head.
__________________
"Change can be good, but constant change shows no direction"

http://www.hickoryhillhoff.blogspot.com/
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 11-01-2006, 08:07 PM
Cajungator26's Avatar
Cajungator26 Cajungator26 is offline
Keeneland
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Hossy's Mom's basement.
Posts: 10,217
Default
Look guys...

I'm well aware that Giacomo is slow, yada yada yada... but IMO, this horse has looked amazing working and I'm impressed. It'd be another upset if he won, but I just can't leave him off of my tickets.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 11-01-2006, 10:00 PM
Suffolk Shippers's Avatar
Suffolk Shippers Suffolk Shippers is offline
Monmouth Park
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 759
Default
If Giacomo wins I may quit the racing game, permanently. I almost did when he won the Derby and he upset my Closing Argument/Afleet Alex exacta box.
I was cursing up and down that afternoon...I can only imagine if he wins the Classic. Girlfriend will likely send me out for a few days.
__________________
"Boston fans hate the Yankees, we hate the Canadiens and we hate the Lakers. It's in our DNA. It just is." - Bill Simmons
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 11-02-2006, 08:11 AM
Cajungator26's Avatar
Cajungator26 Cajungator26 is offline
Keeneland
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Hossy's Mom's basement.
Posts: 10,217
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Suffolk Shippers
If Giacomo wins I may quit the racing game, permanently. I almost did when he won the Derby and he upset my Closing Argument/Afleet Alex exacta box.
I was cursing up and down that afternoon...I can only imagine if he wins the Classic. Girlfriend will likely send me out for a few days.
He messed up my exacta box as well, BUT if there's enough pace up front, he has a legit shot.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 11-02-2006, 08:44 AM
SniperSB23 SniperSB23 is offline
Hialeah Park
  
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Albany, NY
Posts: 6,086
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Suffolk Shippers
If Giacomo wins I may quit the racing game, permanently. I almost did when he won the Derby and he upset my Closing Argument/Afleet Alex exacta box.
I was cursing up and down that afternoon...I can only imagine if he wins the Classic. Girlfriend will likely send me out for a few days.
Yeah, there would be nothing worse for the game than to see owners who actually kept their Derby winner in training for a 4yo season be rewarded with a BC Classic win.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 11-02-2006, 10:30 AM
Pedigree Ann's Avatar
Pedigree Ann Pedigree Ann is offline
Churchill Downs
  
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Lexington, KY
Posts: 1,776
Default
I've said it before and I'll say it again - Giacomo is a good one-paced horse who depends on keeping on past tired horses. The only way he beats first class horses is if they go bonkers on the front end and kill each other off, ala the Kentucky Derby of 2005. The Pacific Classic last year would have been perfect for him, but he wasn't there and Borrego fulfilled the role of 'closer' taking advantage of an insane pace.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 11-02-2006, 10:34 AM
2Hot4TV's Avatar
2Hot4TV 2Hot4TV is offline
Oaklawn
  
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Glendora
Posts: 2,342
Default
Giacomo is a plodder not a closer. I respect him as a past Derby winner and give him no chance in the Classic.
Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Thread Tools
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:46 AM.

Contact Us - Derby Trail Steve Byk Steve’s Notes DT Stables DT Shoppe Gallery Contact Links Archive - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.