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blackthroatedwind 11-12-2006 12:26 PM

A Brand New Day at the Big A
 
Anyone that watched yesterday's races knows it was a super strong inside track that faored speed. The fractions were wicked and the speeds hung on pretty much. Well, after seeing the fractions of the first two races, and the finishes, i would say we are back to a normal track.

Boy, had it been normal yesterday i would've KILLED 'em!

blackthroatedwind 11-12-2006 12:41 PM

The third looked like yesterday but I tend to think it was more circumstantial. Have to keep watching.

philcski 11-12-2006 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
The third looked like yesterday but I tend to think it was more circumstantial. Have to keep watching.

I'm inclined to think the 3rd was a result of the 4 being severely overbet and the 3 getting some good handling from Luzzi rather than a return to yesterday's joke of a surface.

Incidentally, my friend's runner in the 4th yesterday was one of the only horses to make up ground in the stretch on the outside, to finish 2nd. Considering the incompetent Chantal not being able to get him out of the gate (and he had shown excellent gate works coming in) and it was his first start, I'd say it was an excellent debut. Should be an easy winner next out... Thoughts?

SniperSB23 11-12-2006 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
I'm inclined to think the 3rd was a result of the 4 being severely overbet and the 3 getting some good handling from Luzzi rather than a return to yesterday's joke of a surface.

Incidentally, my friend's runner in the 4th yesterday was one of the only horses to make up ground in the stretch on the outside, to finish 2nd. Considering the incompetent Chantal not being able to get him out of the gate (and he had shown excellent gate works coming in) and it was his first start, I'd say it was an excellent debut. Should be an easy winner next out... Thoughts?

Hey Phil, check this thread out, I think it answers your question:

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6787

blackthroatedwind 11-12-2006 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
I'm inclined to think the 3rd was a result of the 4 being severely overbet and the 3 getting some good handling from Luzzi rather than a return to yesterday's joke of a surface.

Incidentally, my friend's runner in the 4th yesterday was one of the only horses to make up ground in the stretch on the outside, to finish 2nd. Considering the incompetent Chantal not being able to get him out of the gate (and he had shown excellent gate works coming in) and it was his first start, I'd say it was an excellent debut. Should be an easy winner next out... Thoughts?

Your friend owns that horse? His trainer is a good friend. I thought the horse ran very well.

I am tempted to bet a few bucks on #4 Kibbitz in the 4th. Nondescript field of NY Bred maidens, no firster getting pounded, and this horse, from those connections keeps taking nibbles. Couldn't she be 60-1 and not 13-1?

philcski 11-12-2006 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Your friend owns that horse? His trainer is a good friend. I thought the horse ran very well.

I am tempted to bet a few bucks on #4 Kibbitz in the 4th. Nondescript field of NY Bred maidens, no firster getting pounded, and this horse, from those connections keeps taking nibbles. Couldn't she be 60-1 and not 13-1?

This trainer doesn't send out many but he pops them... 6-21 on the year!

I like the 6, those that have started have been unimpressive.

philcski 11-12-2006 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Your friend owns that horse? His trainer is a good friend. I thought the horse ran very well.

I am tempted to bet a few bucks on #4 Kibbitz in the 4th. Nondescript field of NY Bred maidens, no firster getting pounded, and this horse, from those connections keeps taking nibbles. Couldn't she be 60-1 and not 13-1?

Yeah, he was a $47k 2YO in training purchase, which i thought was a pretty good price because the mare already dropped a $400k winner. Rizzi is a decent NY stallion... and there's always value in NYB's as far as I'm concerned. Quite a bit of pretty mediocre horseflesh has won over $100k...

philcski 11-12-2006 01:12 PM

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Doubt they'll do anything. I was live to both in the pic 3, but with the 8 it's worth $300 more.

9 is coming down. Has to.

philcski 11-12-2006 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
You would think so. But you never know with the NYRA stewards.

Agreed, but they made the right call here. Congrats on the pick 3! nice hit

blackthroatedwind 11-12-2006 01:30 PM

The takedown was legit.

My firster ran like she should have been 60-1.

philcski 11-12-2006 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
The takedown was legit.

My firster ran like she should have been 60-1.

And of course I bash the experienced horses and the only reasonable ones run 1-2.

SCUDSBROTHER 11-12-2006 02:08 PM

Same f'd up weather.Should just make the switch over to the inner track.

Cunningham Racing 11-12-2006 02:12 PM

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A Brand New Day at the Big A

And what a beautiful day it is there :rolleyes:

That is degrading to even watch and a preview of whats to come in the winter months...now that Turfway has the Polytrack, AQU has officially become the gloom meet of the winter....hard to set your eyes on....:eek:

philcski 11-12-2006 02:19 PM

In the 7th I'll start a pick 3 with the 4, ROSENBACH'S HALO. In a field of compulsive losers, this one has the best pace numbers and gets a very positive rider switch to Jara. Had to go very wide in her last in a turf sprint and was only beaten 5 lengths in a race that returned a good final figure.

The 8th is wide open, so I'll use 1,3,4,5,6, and 8 with extra emphasis on the 6 and 8.
In the 9th the 3 is a virtual single but I'll have a backup ticket with the 2 and 4.

hoovesupsideyourhead 11-12-2006 03:25 PM

love that song takes the "water wagon trail" to victory...in the nightcap


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