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Kasept 04-28-2008 04:58 AM

W/E BSF's: Monterey Jazz 118.. Harlem Rocker 106..
 
Here are the winning Beyer Speed Figures for last week's stakes races:

*Texas Mile (LS): Monterey Jazz (C. Dollase/D. Flores) - 118

*Withers (Aqu): Harlem Rocker (T. Pletcher/E. Coa) - 106
*NTRA (Hol): Dancing in Silks (C. Gaines/J. Rosario) - 103
*Elkhorn (Kee): Dancing Forever (C. McGaughey III/R. Douglas) - 102
*Mervyn LeRoy (Hol): Surf Cat (B. Headley/A. Solis) - 102
*Bob Umphrey Turf Sprint (CRC): Lookinforthesecret (J. Ness/D. Centeno) - 101
*Mairzy Doates (CRC): Mauralakana - Fr (C. Clement/R. Douglas) - 101
*Fort Marcy (Aqu): Silver Tree (W. Mott/E. Prado) - 100

*Derby Trial (CD): Macho Again (D. Stewart/J. Leparoux) - 99
*Henry S. Clark (Pim): Stay Close - GB (M. Zwiesler/A. Napranvik) - 99
*Tiznow (Hol): Stella Mark (T. West/B. Blanc) - 99
*Beaugay (Aqu): Criminologist (C. McGaughey III/J. Velazquez) - 98
*Wilshire (Hol): Diamond Diva - GB (J. Cassidy/D. Flores) - 98
*Milwaukee Avenue (Haw): Instill (J. Wainwright/J. Campbell) - 98
*Khaled (Hol): Mr. Wolverine (J. Gutierrez/M. Baze) - 97
*Chicagoland (Haw): High Expectations (C. Janks/C. Emigh) - 96
*Jacques Cartier (WO): Legal Move (M. Casse/S. Husbands) - 96
*Harry Henson (Hol): Sky Cape (K. Mulhall/V. Espinoza) - 96
*Emergency Nurse (Crc): Moon Catcher (C. Clement/M. Cruz) - 95
*B. Thoughtful (Hol): Spenditallbaby (B. Abrams/M. Baze) - 94
*Bay Meadows (BM): Bold Chieftain (W. Morey Jr./R. Baze) - 94
*Calder Oaks (CRC): Ginger Brew (B. Lynch/J. Castellano) - 93
*Golden Circle (PrM): Maya's Storm (K. Von Hemel/E. Razo Jr.) - 93
*Sandra Hall Grand Canyon (TuP): White Spar (K. Lewis/S. Gann) - 92
*Stampede Park Sprint (StP): Ronaldino (T. Jordan/Q. Welch) - 91
*Sweetzie (Aqu): Altesse (C. McGaughey III/R. Dominguez) - 90
*Wando (WO): Bonanza (M. Casse/P. Husbands) - 90
*Arizona Breeders' Derby (TuP): Ez Dreamer (R. Owens/S. Stevens) - 90
*Fran's Valentine (Hol): Tutta Bella (J. Sadler/G. Gomez) - 90

*Bewitch (Kee): Communique (G. Arnold II/G. Gomez) - 89
*Russell and Hellen Foutz Distaff (SRP): Peppers Pride (J. Marr/C. Madeira) - 89
*Irving Distaff (LS): Tears I Cry (C. Autrey/M. Berry) - 89
*Richland Hills Farm (LS): Timely Reflection (W. Calhoun/B. Walker Jr.) - 88
*M. R. Jenkins Memorial (StP): Beth's Best Bet (J. Meyaard/R. Walcott) - 87
*Governor's Lady (Haw): Secret Kin (C. Block/E. Perez) - 87
*Calder Derby (CRC): Sporting Art (C. Clement/J. Castellano) - 86
*Barretts (Hol): Bestdressed (D. McFarlane/J. Court) - 85
*Howard B. Noonan (Beu): Marble Cliff (W. Cowans/L. Martinez Jr.) - 85
*Goldfinch (PrM): Lindsey's Wish (K. Von Hemel/E. Razo Jr.) - 83
*Land of Lincoln (Haw): Classic R. J. (T. Amoss/J. Graham) - 81
*Francis "Jock" LaBelle Memorial (Del): Go Go Shoot (J. Ryerson/R. Dominguez) - 81
*Grand Prairie Turf Challenge (LS): Lee's Spirit (R. Schultz/E. Tejera) - 81
*Fury (WO): Shilla (N. Gonzalez/D. Clark) - 81
*Warren's Thoroughbreds (Hol): Sangay (B. Headley/M. Smith) - 80

The Indomitable DrugS 04-28-2008 07:48 AM

Monterey Jazz's 118 was basically earned in the same fashion that Commentator's 119 was earlier in the year.

He was uncontested on a clear lead through a very soft opening 1/4 mile. 4K claimers in the very next race on the card would post a faster opening quarter fraction at the same distance.

Monterey Jazz deserves some credit for the tremendously visually impressive nature of the win - a very cut and dry 118 Beyer with the rider up in the saddle "looking like a jump rider" the entire length of the stretch - but when the 1st quarter was posted... you basically expect something gigantic from him with the tactical position he was in.

Even with the trip and all - running five furlongs in 58 flat from the 3/4 pole to the 1/8th pole is something pretty remarkable in a two-turn route over a track that isn't especially fast.

philcski 04-28-2008 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Monterey Jazz's 118 was basically earned in the same fashion that Commentator's 119 was earlier in the year.

He was uncontested on a clear lead through a very soft opening 1/4 mile. 4K claimers in the next race would post a faster opening quarter fraction at the same distance.

Monterey Jazz deserves some credit for the tremendously visually impressive nature of the win - a very cut and dry 118 Beyer with the rider up in the saddle "looking like a jump rider" the entire length of the stretch - but when the 1st quarter was posted... you basically expect something gigantic from him with the tactical position he was in.

Even with the trip and all - running five furlongs in 58 flat from the 3/4 pole to the 1/8th pole is something pretty remarkable in a two-turn route over a track that isn't especially fast.

Early favorite for the Breeders Cup Dirt/Sythetic [almost] Mile.

NTamm1215 04-28-2008 07:53 AM

The connections of Monterey Jazz could easily steal another large purse by taking the Lone Star Park Handicap on Memorial Day ($400,000) but it's only a Grade 3. I hope he goes to the Met Mile because jcs11204 says that Commentator will run them all off their feet and prognostication is that guy's middle name.

NT

Bigsmc 04-28-2008 08:23 AM

Umphrey Turf Sprint: Lookinforthesecret - 101

SentToStud 04-28-2008 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc
Umphrey Turf Sprint: Lookinforthesecret - 101

Didn't bet the race but that was a good price on this horse. I thought the Super wasn't all that tough to catch ... $11k for a buck. In Summ ran awful.

AlexP 04-28-2008 10:34 AM

Any word on a BSF for Pepper's Pride? Also, if anyone could find it for the Bosselman/Gus Fonner Memorial that was at Fonner Saturday, that'd be nice too. I live in Kansas, and know a guy who races the Kansas/Nebraska circuit.

jpops757 04-28-2008 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philcski
Early favorite for the Breeders Cup Dirt/Sythetic [almost] Mile.

When is Euroears gonna get back?

cakes44 04-28-2008 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexP
Any word on a BSF for Pepper's Pride? Also, if anyone could find it for the Bosselman/Gus Fonner Memorial that was at Fonner Saturday, that'd be nice too. I live in Kansas, and know a guy who races the Kansas/Nebraska circuit.


The Nutz received an 18 BSF for his win over 1 1/16 miles in 1:47.40 Saturday in the $75,000 Bosselman/Gus Fonner Memorial. Andy Beyer has a hard time making figures at that distance for Fonner though because it's like 12 or 13 turns.

AlexP 04-28-2008 12:51 PM

Haha, that's only too true. It's like a 5f track? Not for sure, but it's short.

jballscalls 04-28-2008 05:22 PM

i heard monterray jazz went something like 5 or 6 seconds faster than either of the two earlier miles.

philcski 04-28-2008 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cakes44
The Nutz received an 78 BSF for his win over 1 1/16 miles in 1:47.40 Saturday in the $75,000 Bosselman/Gus Fonner Memorial. Andy Beyer has a hard time making figures at that distance for Fonner though because it's like 12 or 13 turns.

FTFY

AlexP 04-28-2008 06:57 PM

Oh, that makes a lot more sense. I didn't think an 18 sounded right, lol. I mean, I know we don't have the greatest quality racing but I didn't think it was that bad.

philcski 04-28-2008 07:21 PM

My figures for the weekend... (my figure, and Beyer equivalent)
Harlem Rocker 116 = 104
Dancing Forever 115.5 = 103
Macho Again 115 = 102
Silver Tree 113.5 = 99
Criminologist 113 = 98
Comminque 109 = 91

Kasept 04-29-2008 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexP
Any word on a BSF for Pepper's Pride? Also, if anyone could find it for the Bosselman/Gus Fonner Memorial that was at Fonner Saturday, that'd be nice too. I live in Kansas, and know a guy who races the Kansas/Nebraska circuit.

Russell and Hellen Foutz Distaff (SRP): Peppers Pride (J. Marr/C. Madeira) - 89

Had her trainer Joel Marr on ATR last night... About as humble a guy as you could come across.


AND...

Bosselman/Gus Fonner (Fon): The Nutz (S. Hall/D. Herber Jr.) - 78

AlexP 04-29-2008 10:40 AM

Thank you very much Steve!

Cannon Shell 04-29-2008 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc
Umphrey Turf Sprint: Lookinforthesecret - 101

The BCs' extensive prerace monitoring may be the great equalizer for Lookinforthesecret

Cannon Shell 04-29-2008 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philcski
My figures for the weekend... (my figure, and Beyer equivalent)
Harlem Rocker 116 = 104
Dancing Forever 115.5 = 103
Macho Again 115 = 102
Silver Tree 113.5 = 99
Criminologist 113 = 98
Comminque 109 = 91

Phil Figs

Bigsmc 04-29-2008 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
The BCs' extensive prerace monitoring may be the great equalizer for Lookinforthesecret

You mean 25k claimers don't always win 250k races?

It'll be interesting to see how bold he gets with this horse this summer. I don't think he'll stray too far from his Cby/Tam comfort zone.


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