yeah, that Garret Gomez really Sucks
 

That ride he just gave Octave in the Adirondack was just total crap. I mean, it was just pure luck that Octace won at 9-1 and it was just dumb luck that Gomez sat off of a sizzling pace and had his horse in perfect position to pounce in midstretch.

Yeah, you guys are right...Gomez really sucks. Pletcher should find a smarter rider.

Yeah it cracks me up too. The 2nd leading jockey in the US and people call him stupid. If he is stupid then what are the trainers that use him? I guess they are even more stupid because they employ a stupid rider.

It was a great ride, but he was the benefit of a stupid ride by Jara.

Yeah, they discussed that on ATRAB recently. I think b/c Gomez has had some issues in the past, people are generally harder on him. He is a very skilled rider who does tend to take some risks out there and sometimes they don't pan out.

Gomez is a top 5 rider. I would only take J. Velasquez over him on dirt or turf and C. Velasquez on the turf.

people are quick to give P Val a break and as far as I know Garret Gomez has not relapsed or fallen back into his drug habit.

He was winning plenty of races before and after a short time at the bottom has worked his way back up there.

I don' think Gomez is to blame for Ace losing the Millio

Now, Desormeaux.. I have no clue with him
so I guess we're even

Yeah,it's true.Him winning on this 9-1 has cleansed my memory of T.M BLING's ride.It's as if it never happened.That race last week that Coa schooled him in didn't happen either.They pale in comparison to winning this race on a 9-1 filly in 1:19.

Of course Gomez isnt to blame for ACE losing the million. The oldest cliche in racing "pace makes the race" and ACE needs a ton of it to be effective. All one had to do is look at the pps to know that ACE had little chance of winning the million.

Have you ever even ridden a riding pony? Try it some time. No one ever said Gomez was perfect. He has his share of rides that are questionable just like all of the rest of them.

You bring up a ride on some horse that no one will remember a month from now. There are probably hundreds of others that he brought home that no one will bring up or remember later.

The fact of the matter is a "dumb" rider wouldnt have given that ride today. Heck, I would have loved to have seen all of you guys crying if Garret had ridden the 1 horse that Johnny V burned up before the turn. Not to say that it was JV's fault as he had little choice breaking from the rail. Just to say that Gomez seems to be under an unfair microscope and if you guys are going to point out every mistake he makes i figure i can point out the times he does a nice job.

"You bring up a ride on some horse that no one will remember a month from now. "


Trust me.People don't forget bad rides,and people especially don't forget bad rides on the best horse in the race.They just don't.

Bull****. if this were true, why would Baffert ride him again? Trainers forgive bad rides all the time. If not, there would be no one to ride the horses.

Yeah,because he uses him again,it means he doesn't remember the ride? Jock is off the hook with any Baffert from the 1 hole in a sprint like that.Jock could cut off half the field and Baffert would say it was all caused by the 1 hole,and that he takes the blame for even racing the horse at all from the 1 hole.Baffert thinks JEWS N' ARABS ARE FIGHTIN' CUZ OF THE 1 HOLE.

Who cares if he remembers the ride or not if he puts him back up on other mounts. Im sure Baffert remembers some of the winners he brought home as well.

I dont know what this has to do with the one hole or jew or arabs. This simply has to do with you not being able to make a logical point to support your ill- conceived argument. I would expect no less.

This guy makes people bet on him and not just the horse he is on and it is killing the prices on most of his horses. Its like the way Pat Day was in Kentucky and Jerry Bailey was in NY you just got to bet on them cause you know if you don't they will burn you:D

If your talkin about Too Much Bling yep the 1 Post screwed him

I remember you (Dalakhani) now.You are that Hezbollah sympathizer.You're the one who goes on and on like a rabid animal. You could turn this into a 5 page thread.You're just about the most argumentative little btch on here.

and YOU'RE about the most ignorant.

By the way,most all of us agree that he can do what he did here(rate off the pace with a 9-1,and come late.)He has done this very well.This is more of the same.The question is can he make good decisions when he is on the chalk.This is the question.Can he avoid being locked in by the other jocks?Can he make good decisions when wearing the target? This is the concern with this guy(not his ability to ride bombs from off the pace...we all agree he is good at that.) I haven't seen him really mess up much on anything 7/2 or better.

It was indeed pure luck and you obviously didnt see teh race if you don't know that. Gomez was "all in" on the turn pumping as hard as he could and losing ground behind the dueling leaders. They blistered fractions and he caught them late. Its also his first win since Friday. Gee, thats just swell. A guy riding nothing but live horses wins one race in 4 racing days, wow, he should go straight in the hall of fame for that one!!! LOL!!! Umm, how many guys is he trailing up here?

I don't think he is trailing as many as 1st predicted, and considering its his 1st meet at Saratoga he has faired better than most. He is just a better rider than most.

How is it that Gomez is getting so many live horses? Bunch of stupid trainers?
And how are stupid trainers able to get horses in condition to be live?

You are so funny. Whenever Gomez gives a good ride, you say it was luck. His $12.4 million in purses, which is more than any other rider in the country ,must be luck too. When he gives a good ride, it was good racing luck but when he gets into trouble it was not bad racing luck, it was his fault. If you are going to hold him responsible for the bad trips, you have to give him credit for the good trips.

With regard to his ride in the feature today, he rode the horse perfectly. I saw the race. He wasn't "all in" and pumping as hard as he could on the turn. He was riding the horse somewhat to stay close. He may have had to get after her a little bit to keep her running into the dirt that she was taking. Anyway, he placed the horse perfectly and he made his move at the right time. Whenever he started asking the horse was obviously the right time. He won the race didn't he? Actually that doesn't always mean that the ride was good. I've seen bad rides where a horse was so much the best that they won despite getting a bad ride. But that wasn't the case here. I don't think you can critique this ride. He stayed out of trouble and he timed his move right. He rode her perfectly.

Well,he did look "all in" on the turn to me,and appeared to lose some ground(hence.."all in.") This is what I feel the guy is best at(riding the hell out of a price horse.)It became a Batan Death March,and he was rewarded for staying after his filly the whole time.Guy is always a good play on a price horse that can come late.Now,if he can learn to keep chalk from getting trapped(and/or intimidated,) then he will be worth playing on chalk.

No doubt it was a good ride yesterday, but I still think it was more the benefit of a crappy ride by Jara who was stretching a filly from a 5 furlong debut to 6.5 furlongs and still felt the need to run the 1st quarter in :21.8 and the half in :45 flat. I think Jara clearly had enough horse where he could have let some of the inside speed take off and sit right off them and let them do all the work early....but what the heck do I know?

Kev,I like a fair track.That track is no such thing.The leader went fast,but lets face it here...they went 1:19 for 6 1/2f. I mean how tiring do you think that track was for that Monmouth filly to come pass nice fillies that easily for 2nd? Track is a joke.I ain't playing it.

I hear ya there. I have been playing some turf races there, but have stayed away from the dirt for the most part. Only reason I even played that race yesterday was because it was the middle leg of the late Pick 3 that looked very hittable at a small price. I will pick a couple spot plays in the last few weeks, but for the most part, I will wait for the fall Belmont meet to start up where I generally have good success.

The thing about Gomez is this:

He's either on or he's off. There seems to be no inbetween with this guy. When he's "on", there is no better rider, but when he's "off", watch out...

I personally like a more consistent rider, but what do I know?

Hope you guys enjoyed that win yesterday!! Blanked again today. I'm glad you guys worship the meets SIXTH LEADING RIDER SO MUCH!! Cough cough ahem, I said he would get schooled here, and how is it that such a wonderfully consistent rider can be sixth?

Who cares that he didn't win a race today? He only had three mounts today. He's still won more money in purses than any other rider in North America. Why do guys like Pletcher, Asmussen and Clement keep using him if he is so stupid?

stats are misleading. Prado is out front but Gomez is only TWO back of JV and Eibar who are tied for second and only one back of Cornelio V and Bejarano who are tied for third. He is fifth in terms of earnings. Man, that guy is really stinking it up!!!

If you call a guy winning at a 17% clip and finishing at 52% in the money "getting schooled" then I guess we all have a lot to learn. Please...school me on how that is "getting schooled".

Why do guys like Pletcher, Asmussen and Clement keep using him if he is so stupid?

The million dollar question!

More importantly, why did Ron Anderson decide to take on his book? Anderson must be a moron as well. I guess the two he booked rides for before Gomez were real morons as well. Hold on...wait a second...

Didnt that moron anderson use to book rides for a couple of other dumb riders named Bailey and Stevens?

Asmussen rarely uses him, and when does Clement use him? Maybe once in a while. He doesnt get near Shug's horses and he doesn't get near Mott's either. hasn't ridden a race for Dutrow up here either, hmmm, and he doesnt ride much for Asmussen . Like today, when Asmussen wanted to win a stakes race, he used PRADO!! LMFAO!!!!!
Umm lets see now(man you guys won't ever admit a damn thing). Try this misleading stat!!!
Saturday- Gomez is blanked
Sunday- Gomez is blanked
Monday- Gomez is blanked
Tuesday- day off
Wednesday- Gomez wins one.
Thusday- Gomez is blanked.

Geez guys that just great. Mr Inconsistency wins one race in 5 racing days and please don't tell me he hasn't been on live mounts. Hes in sixth place because he takes 5 day mental vacations in between riding well and winning races.

Simple, noone else as available. WHo the hell else was he gonna get? His rider retired, and everyone else was happy with their agent. I mean, is that rocket science?

Why is he riding Wait a While over Johnny V?

Then i want his job!!!!! Lets see, i only have to work 2 days a week and i win more money than anyone else doing my job? Sign me up!!!

There are a bunch of guys he could have gotten...this is RON ANDERSON for crying out loud. This is the best agent in the game. Are you saying he couldnt have gotten Coa, bejarano, nakatani or a handful of other riders?

It became his mount when Johnny chose to ride another horse the day that she went out West. Thats how it works Tim. You don't lose mounts to injury but you do lose mounts when asked to make a decision between two horses and you choose the other one.

Well Mr terrorist sympathizer, how much do you wanna bet that he doesnt win the most money this year? Name your amount.

Garrett was botching rides left n' right at Anita last Winter.He decided it was his agent's fault.Book available.