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hrfan 08-25-2008 11:35 AM

Midnight Lute
 
Any chance Baffert runs him back this Saturday at Saratoga, Why not ? Yesterday clearly took nothing out of him, and him vs Benny vs Lucky Island is a amazing race.

Scav 08-25-2008 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by hrfan
Any chance Baffert runs him back this Saturday at Saratoga, Why not ? Yesterday clearly took nothing out of him, and him vs Benny vs Lucky Island is a amazing race.

Easy PG, EASY

Indian Charlie 08-25-2008 11:40 AM

I actually was thinking the same thing that PG was. He never broke out of a gallop basically.

I doubt he'd do it though, but I think if ML wasn't hurt yesterday, he'd trounce those horses in the Forego.

Scav 08-25-2008 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
I actually was thinking the same thing that PG was. He never broke out of a gallop basically.

I doubt he'd do it though, but I think if ML wasn't hurt yesterday, he'd trounce those horses in the Forego.

I might be wrong but I thought I heard Edwards say he caught a quarter in the race or something. I was drafting my Fantasy team and trying to watch at the same time in a loud bar so I could be wrong.

Indian Charlie 08-25-2008 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
I might be wrong but I thought I heard Edwards say he caught a quarter in the race or something. I was drafting my Fantasy team and trying to watch at the same time in a loud bar so I could be wrong.

Yeah, you are the second person to mention that here. That would be problematic, though I have to admit, I don't know what grabbing a quarter means.

Anyone?

freddymo 08-25-2008 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
Yeah, you are the second person to mention that here. That would be problematic, though I have to admit, I don't know what grabbing a quarter means.

Anyone?

You bend down and pick up a quarter on the floor..grab it and put it in your pocket

LARHAGE 08-25-2008 11:56 AM

I was there in person and he was bleeding profusely from his fetlock, when a horse clips the back of their fetlock ( ankle) with the hoof of the back foot it's called grabbing a quarter.

Indian Charlie 08-25-2008 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
You bend down and pick up a quarter on the floor..grab it and put it in your pocket

That sounds like something The Indomitable DrugS would do.

LARHAGE, thanks for the explanation!

hrfan 08-25-2008 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Easy PG, EASY

What does this mean ?
I am new here and do not understand.

Gauchos0522 08-25-2008 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by hrfan
What does this mean ?
I am new here and do not understand.

Just in case there were still people not convinced...:rolleyes:

Thunder Gulch 08-25-2008 04:35 PM

The best part of watching Midnight Lute not run was seeing Hank Goldberg chase his losses on Saturday by pouring it on ML and some silly exacta boxes on a horse off a 9 month layoff on a new surface. I still don't understand why he gets to give his opinion on ESPN. It' s not like he's articulate or charismatic. Basically a bumbling idiot and crappy handicapper.

SCUDSBROTHER 08-25-2008 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by LARHAGE
I was there in person and he was bleeding profusely from his fetlock, when a horse clips the back of their fetlock ( ankle) with the hoof of the back foot it's called grabbing a quarter.

Sounds like something M LUTE would do. This horse should of been called "Baby Fry Loot." Hasn't he been beaten as major chalk in 4 of his last 6? Unless it's sloppy, I just don't understand playing this individual.

Merlinsky 08-25-2008 04:55 PM

Yup ML's got a boo boo. Baffert said the Vosburgh was a 'no way.' ML got sore today. I hope he didn't just blow a whole year of racing. Ghostzapper's one race season wasn't much better really. Sure you get a G1 but c'mon, kind of a let down. I know it's a bit of an overreaction to think that grabbing a quarter could end the year but it's not that many months til the BC and ML's been out with hind end drama til now. I frankly think Baffert's not just BSing the claustrophobia thing--between that and the Polytrack he's not lovin' his experience in Cali right now looks like.

LARHAGE 08-25-2008 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Sounds like something M LUTE would do. This horse should of been called "Baby Fry Loot." Hasn't he been beaten as major chalk in 4 of his last 6? Unless it's sloppy, I just don't understand playing this individual.

He was hot in the paddock and the gate, than he broke awkwardly and thats when they tend to grab quarters. He is very fragile and it's a shame, he's a very exciting horse to watch.

Quiet Chris 08-25-2008 05:28 PM

They have to be thinking Cigar Mile with this horse.

hoovesupsideyourhead 08-25-2008 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch
The best part of watching Midnight Lute not run was seeing Hank Goldberg chase his losses on Saturday by pouring it on ML and some silly exacta boxes on a horse off a 9 month layoff on a new surface. I still don't understand why he gets to give his opinion on ESPN. It' s not like he's articulate or charismatic. Basically a bumbling idiot and crappy handicapper.

classic and the other guy was busting his balls about the empty pockets..

pgardn 08-25-2008 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
classic and the other guy was busting his balls about the empty pockets..

Which is why he is on.

He had to make "the walk of shame", Kenny Maine's
euphemism for having to go back the the ATM. Which
Goldberg had to make. And then he promptly lost again.

Seeing guys go back for more cash in the 9th or 10th on
a card... a poignant moment.

letswastemoney 08-25-2008 06:34 PM

So that was his first race since the BC right? I guess that angle of ignoring those coming back from the BC really does work.

Danzig 08-25-2008 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky
Yup ML's got a boo boo. Baffert said the Vosburgh was a 'no way.' ML got sore today. I hope he didn't just blow a whole year of racing. Ghostzapper's one race season wasn't much better really. Sure you get a G1 but c'mon, kind of a let down. I know it's a bit of an overreaction to think that grabbing a quarter could end the year but it's not that many months til the BC and ML's been out with hind end drama til now. I frankly think Baffert's not just BSing the claustrophobia thing--between that and the Polytrack he's not lovin' his experience in Cali right now looks like.


hard to say how long he could be off, since it depends on how much hoof he removed. if he just dinged himself, that's one thing, but if they have to wait for the hoof to grow out, it could be months.

hrfan 08-25-2008 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney
So that was his first race since the BC right? I guess that angle of ignoring those coming back from the BC really does work.

Not first race since he lost to Daheer in the Cigar Mile.

VOL JACK 08-25-2008 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
Yeah, you are the second person to mention that here. That would be problematic, though I have to admit, I don't know what grabbing a quarter means.

Anyone?

You know when they do it, seen it happen plenty in the morning during gallops. Mainly because of clueless gallop guys/girls.
It looks painful, kinda like watching someone get hit in the O!O with a baseball.

onebadbeast 08-26-2008 12:44 AM

this horse is toast...........

hrfan 08-26-2008 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by onebadbeast
this horse is toast...........

doubt it, this horse is one of the most talented around.

CSC 08-26-2008 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by hrfan
Any chance Baffert runs him back this Saturday at Saratoga, Why not ? Yesterday clearly took nothing out of him, and him vs Benny vs Lucky Island is a amazing race.

To me the question was why he hasn't run him at Saratoga or the past 9 and 1/2 months until the Pat O'Brien. Really isn't that a prudent question to any horseplayer. I didn't hit the pick 3-4 at Delmar this Sunday but there was a thread a couple months ago on him, and I basically pointed out the next time he runs will be a great chance to bet against him, you just don't bet on horses returning from 9+ months layoff in a grade 1 at 3/5. I never included him in any of my pick 3-4 tickets but atleast I got that leg correct.


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