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DiscreetCat=Monster 09-30-2006 12:34 AM

Dutrow to Cali
 
Cause of course I know nothing


Dutrow is sending a string of horse to Cali to train at hollywood

some of you have no clue about peoples knowledge that just makes me laugh that some people are so caught up in themselves that if they would stop and listen for a minute they might learn a little bit and not sound ignorant:D

ateamstupid 09-30-2006 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I agree completely. I have never understood it. From his comeback effort, and the fact that he handily defeated one of our best handicap horses, you would think they would at least take a crack at the Classic.

Ehh, I don't know about that one. Call me naive, but I think if he had made The Dwyer like they originally wanted him to, we would've seen him in the BCC. But off one seven-furlong start and one one-turn mile start against strictly 3-year-olds, that's a lot to ask of a horse to run him at ten furlongs against a full field in the toughest dirt race on earth. Even a horse this good.

tycharles01 09-30-2006 11:57 AM

Does anyone know if they will have tri betting for the Jerome???

Should be a nice betting race after the 1/5 u get on Discreet Cat

2nd and 3rd could be 8/1 or higher

ateamstupid 09-30-2006 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tycharles01
Does anyone know if they will have tri betting for the Jerome???

Should be a nice betting race after the 1/5 u get on Discreet Cat

2nd and 3rd could be 8/1 or higher

He'll be 1/9 at best.

And yes, there is trifecta wagering at the moment, but I'm guessing someone will scratch and make it an even worse betting race.

blackthroatedwind 10-01-2006 01:16 PM

Discreet Cat's BC Plans Announced
 
Following the preliminaries to Discreet Cat's guaranteed victory in today's Jerome Handicap at Belmont over such luminaries as Nar and Quietly Go Goldolphin Stables, in their usually " throw caution to the wind " style, have announced an ambitious assault on this year's BC. They have contacted BC officials, who were more than willing to reshuffle the sequence of races in order to accomodate the man who filled the coffers of all breeders, and subsequently will be running Discreet Cat in the BC Sprint ( now the first race ), the BC Mile ( now the 4th race ) and either the BC Turf or the BC Classic.

While this aggressive schedule may seem unrealistic to some it is hardly surprising for both a horse so obviously better than any horse that ever lived and for as daring a stable as Godolphin. While they recognized that Discreet Cat would be making as many starts on November 4th as many of their charges make in a lifetime the Sheik was quick to point out " Special horses demand special situations ". In this time of shortened careers and careful placing this writer is proud to see the Sheik stepping out from the crowd.

Garrett Gomez, Discreet Cat's rider, was quick to point out that the BC Sprint was really going to take no more effort than Discreet Cat's normal prerace warmup. Thus he will be well warmed up for the BC Mile, and as Gomez said, we all know he is equally good on all surfaces. Thus both races will be mere cakewalks for this proven superstar.

While Godolphin is expected to then hold out for the Classic, there are some that believe Discreet Cat will run in the BC Turf simply to keep their options open for then returning in the Classic. As for those that think they will skip the Classic just to allow their other star, Bernardini, win that race, the Sheik scoffed at that notion. " Why would we allow an inferior beast such as Bernardini to steal the limelight from his obviously superior stablemate? "

I, for one, can hardly wait.

GenuineRisk 10-01-2006 01:18 PM

Hilarious. I may print that out to hang up near my desk.

Downthestretch55 10-01-2006 01:20 PM

I'd love to see them eat a super-sized slice of "humble pie".

Danzig 10-01-2006 01:20 PM

shame they aren't running consecutively, as i'd love to bet a discreet cat/discreet cat/ discreet cat pick three. not that it would pay much, everyone would be all over him...

kentuckyrosesinmay 10-01-2006 01:26 PM

That was pretty funny BTW...

DiscreetCat=Monster 10-01-2006 01:33 PM

even if he won all three it would only pay like $20 on the PK 4



I would still give my LEFT NUT to own him!

paisjpq 10-01-2006 01:42 PM

andy you have outdone yourself...LMAO

King Glorious 10-01-2006 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Following the preliminaries to Discreet Cat's guaranteed victory in today's Jerome Handicap at Belmont over such luminaries as Nar and Quietly Go Goldolphin Stables, in their usually " throw caution to the wind " style, have announced an ambitious assault on this year's BC. They have contacted BC officials, who were more than willing to reshuffle the sequence of races in order to accomodate the man who filled the coffers of all breeders, and subsequently will be running Discreet Cat in the BC Sprint ( now the first race ), the BC Mile ( now the 4th race ) and either the BC Turf or the BC Classic.

While this aggressive schedule may seem unrealistic to some it is hardly surprising for both a horse so obviously better than any horse that ever lived and for as daring a stable as Godolphin. While they recognized that Discreet Cat would be making as many starts on November 4th as many of their charges make in a lifetime the Sheik was quick to point out " Special horses demand special situations ". In this time of shortened careers and careful placing this writer is proud to see the Sheik stepping out from the crowd.

Garrett Gomez, Discreet Cat's rider, was quick to point out that the BC Sprint was really going to take no more effort than Discreet Cat's normal prerace warmup. Thus he will be well warmed up for the BC Mile, and as Gomez said, we all know he is equally good on all surfaces. Thus both races will be mere cakewalks for this proven superstar.

While Godolphin is expected to then hold out for the Classic, there are some that believe Discreet Cat will run in the BC Turf simply to keep their options open for then returning in the Classic. As for those that think they will skip the Classic just to allow their other star, Bernardini, win that race, the Sheik scoffed at that notion. " Why would we allow an inferior beast such as Bernardini to steal the limelight from his obviously superior stablemate? "

I, for one, can hardly wait.

This post has helped me to see the stupidity of my thinking. What this sport needs more of is people without imagination. We need more people to stick with the traditional ways and to stop thinking outside of the box. We need to stop running fillies against the boys. That's stupid. Forget about what Winning Colors, Lady's Secret, Personal Ensign, and Serena's Song did. Girls shouldn't run against the boys. Pride has NO CHANCE of beating out Hurricane Run, Shirocco, and Deep Impact today in the Arc. Instead, she needs to be in the Prix Opera. Girls against girls, boys against boys. What else? Oh yeah, horses should NEVER switch surfaces because when u are good on one, u need to stay on that one because u can't be good on another. I wish the trainers of horses like Lava Man, John Henry, Giant's Causeway, and Secretariat would understand this simple truth. What else? Well, while we are at it, 3yo's shouldn't run against older. There are too many races for 3yo's to stick with their own kind and it makes no sense to step outside of their division. Guys like Neil Drysdale and Andre Fabre are obviously idiots. I mean, didn't Drysdale realize that Prized was a really good dirt horse, good enough to beat Sunday Silence in the Swaps? What was he thinking when he put Prized in the BC Turf as his grass debut? That Prized WON the race is irrelevant. It was a dumb move. And Fabre is really stupid. I mean he took a horse named Jolypha and ran her against just about EVERY logical training edict there is. To start, Jolypha was a multiple grade one winning, champion 3yo filly in France. So what does Fabre do with her? He ships her across the Atlantic to run her against males (older ones at that) in the BC Classic, her first start on dirt. It doesn't get more ridiculous than this does it? That she finished third, only beaten 1/2 length by our champion older male is irrelevant. It was a stupid idea to try it.

My point here? I guess I really don't have one. By his comments, I know I partly inspired BTW to write this post. It was actually pretty well written and pretty funny. But what is so wrong about me suggesting that it would be a good idea to run Discreet Cat in the BC Mile? Sure it would be his first start on grass but if he's really supposed to be an extraordinary horse, as I believe he is, shouldn't he be able to do extraordinary things? Prized could switch over with no problems. Giant's Causeway, Sakhee, Johannesburg, Arazi, Sheikh Albadou, Dayjur, Arcangues, Ibn Bey.....all horses that made their debut on a new surface in a BC race and either won or ran in the money. Why can't Discreet Cat do it? We know that the mile distance would probably be perfect for him. If he's good enough, they could win BC races with him and Bernardini and never have to run them against each other. Wouldn't that be ideal for them? Why is it such a silly idea?

DiscreetCat=Monster 10-01-2006 02:23 PM

King, I like your style. I think it was just supposed to be funny but it made the person that wrote it look like they have been living in a box.

blackthroatedwind 10-01-2006 04:08 PM

Yes, King Glorious, it is, of course, all about you. The Sheik, in fact, mentioned you in the press conference. Of course, and I know you understand this, I left you out so as not to steal thunder from this momentous occasion.

I did, however, credit you to my editor.

Gander 10-01-2006 04:19 PM

"Valid Notebook, in an all out drive to hold 2nd"

I'd like to know which race Durkin was watching.

1st_Saturday_in_May 10-01-2006 04:20 PM

If Godolphin doesnt send this guy in the BC Sprint, it may be the worst move by an owner that I've seen in a while. He would OWN that race...

ateamstupid 10-01-2006 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1st_Saturday_in_May
If Godolphin doesnt send this guy in the BC Sprint, it may be the worst move by an owner that I've seen in a while. He would OWN that race...

If they send him to the sprint, it may be the dumbest move ever by an owner.

DiscreetCat=Monster 10-01-2006 04:23 PM

Best horse I have ever seen run and i watch this stuff all day everyday. Those were not slow horses he beat

blackthroatedwind 10-01-2006 04:23 PM

This just in....NYRA has altered the conditions of today's finale and in a twisted BC prep Discreet Cat will be running in the 10th.

For purse money only of course.


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