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GPK 09-09-2006 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
I don't know.. my optimal distance is about 8 1/2 furlongs.. after that I'm liable to spit the bit.

Hell...you got me....I couldn't make a 4 1/2 furlong sprint race at Charlestown.

GPK 09-09-2006 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I think Cacique made his case today. This is a what have you done for me lately sport, and with EC waiting, and Cacique so impressive today, I think it's Cacique's to lose.

Impressive against a decent horse in Go Deputy, a 3YO in Showing Up, and Cosmonaut????? Not a very good Grade 1 field to make a case with.

GPK 09-09-2006 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
It was the way he did it. It was very visually impressive. I'm a big EC fan, so I'm not trying to argue, but again, the horses run against who show up. Go Deputy is an improving sort, who won the Sword Dancer, decisively last out. Showing Up was being touted as the best 3 year old turfer, and Relaxed Gesture is a grade I winner. Not a bad grade I, hell there have been a lot worse.
Honestly....right now....it is a total toss up. Could go either way. Both are equally talented. They are 1-2 as far as Older U.S. turf horses go...no doubt in my mind.

GPK 09-09-2006 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Oh I agree 100%. I just think with EC waiting in the wings today, he might have went down to #2.
EC will always be #1 to me:D ....even after he is retired and starts making a bunch of little EC's. I would love to see him go to Megahertz....LOL...that poor horse would probably never be bigger than 14 hands..

Sightseek 09-09-2006 10:49 PM
Since people were talking BC Mile...Pletcher is considering it with Wait A While....

Looks like he will be covered in every race; his best possibilities (Not necessary horses I think will win, but if only I was the female version of Pletcher! :D )

Juvie - Circular Quay
Fillies - Octave
Mile - Wait A While
Turf - Go Deputy / English Channel
FM Turf - Honey Ryder / Mag Song
Sprint - Friendly Island
Classic - Flower Alley
Distaff - Spun Sugar / Pool Land / La Reason / Oonagh McCool / Fleet Indian / I must be missing others...

eurobounce 09-09-2006 10:56 PM
I might be wrong, but Showing Up should not even run in the Breeders Cup. Sit the horse out that day. There are tons of races he could do very well in (dirt or turf).

Cacique and Wait A While will not win the mile. I like Aragorn and Gorella more so than those two. Plus we have no clue what milers are coming over from Europe.

I cannot believe Showing Up was bet so low. Showing Up has never faced the caliber of horses he did today. Plus being a 3 year old was a huge negative. He should remain on turf for the 07 season and he should dominate.

Sightseek 09-09-2006 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
The mile....really? I think she'd fit better in the F&M Turf, but who knows. I am a giant Pletcher fan, but I think his most realistic shot is the Juvenile races.
He's got nearly the entire field save Pine Island (who I'm loving) in the Distaff! LOL

ateamstupid 09-10-2006 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Sightseek
He's got nearly the entire field save Pine Island (who I'm loving) in the Distaff! LOL
It's gonna be hilarious. Pletcher's gonna have five starters and Pine Island and Balletto are gonna run one-two.. It's gonna be like Zito in last year's Derby, but worse.

Sightseek 09-10-2006 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
This is true, but I think only two are serious contenders. Spun Sugar, and Oonagh Macool, if she has recovered from the Go For Wand debacle.
What about Fleet Indian?

Dunbar 09-10-2006 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by GPK
EC will always be #1 to me:D ....even after he is retired and starts making a bunch of little EC's.
I guess they would be ec's then.

--Dunbar

ladbroke drc 09-10-2006 10:21 AM
lmao
 
its always a riot to listen to you grandstand goofs telling the real horse people what THEY should do with THEIR HORSES ..


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