yeah, absolutely no excuse, horrible math on my end, no idea where I got that from. She still sucks

You're such a dick.

Gotcha.

I wouldn't mind seeing her run back on the Poly again at this point in her career.

After she wins the Beverly D., that is.

English Channel?:tro:

If he's the best turfer we have had over here in the last 10-15 years...I think there's a poignant point somewhere in that statement.

About what? How to hit place bets?

On English Channel? Thinking that he did win a few. 13 for 23 or something.

Oh! :)

I love it when you and I agree.

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25189

I loved her in the Prix De Opera last year. She's sort of the forgotten filly in the Aga Khan's all world 3some with Darjina and Zarkava. Amazing trio for one stable and we haven't even mentioned Mandesha yet or the filly that finished an unlucky 2nd in the HK Vase a few years ago whose name escapes me at the moment.

:)


http://www.hkjc.com/english/racing/r...2006&raceno=03

Keep an eye on this girl...:cool:

http://www.racingpost.com/news/blood...y/603518/news/

Thanks I remember betting Kastoria that morning, Still mad over that ride by Kinane.

ZERKERIYA,However, she operates at a very different level to her illustrious older sibling: having twice finished runner-up in Longchamp maiden races under Zarkava's regular pilot Christophe Soumillon,

Sounds familiar huh...Nicanor?

I'm just getting home from AP, I pulled into the parking lot and thought I was at the Breeders Cup :zz:
Never saw so many people there, way more crowded then last years Million crowd, people saving lawnchair seats down by the rail sucked.

on a no-stakes non-weekend day? why the crowd?

Fireworks..it was nuts. If they had 32,000 for Fathers Day, they had to be close to 40,000 today

Now possible for the Prix Jacques Le Marois...

http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/n...al_114941.html

Famous Name won today at the Curragh...

http://horses.sportinglife.com/Full_...320688,00.html

(Just to update two others who have been mentioned here, Takeover Target sadly injured in the July Cup yesterday and officially retired and Rocket Man injured and out for 6 months).

edit -
http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/n...al_163809.html

Does anyone know of any Euros / South Africans defo pointed to Million Day?? Imbongi would be a nice type after his run today.

Yeah it was a nice run and good for Aqlaam. His first win since fracturing his pelvis (after winning the Jersey Stakes last year).

MdK's boy Russian Sage was being considered for the Million but had a setback the same week as Archie. :(

Sucks.

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edit - De Kock reportedly now considering Imbongi for the Million. Hope so!

Are you guys and gals thinking like I am Gio Ponti will probably be the overbet favorite in the Arlington Million, add Einstein and this could be an excellent value race for the European afficienado's.

I would think so because everyone was talking about Gio Ponti's performance, including Pachenco who mentioned it multiple times throughout the day yesterday.

We'll see who shows up and take it from there

Gio Ponti has every right to be the favorite in the Million and considering his consistency and versatility I think the Euros would have to send over a pretty strong contingent.

The American turf horses last year were a disaster and that's what contributed most of all to Spirit One's Million win and Conduit's BC Turf win. I mean, who was the best American turf horse in the BC Turf last year? Grand Couturier? Dancing Forever? Oh God.

NT

Has the strongest late kick around and, now, a jock that will also certainly time it perfectly every time out

Has just demonstrated that he can win with a wide, no cover, circle trip in a paceless race -- the hardest trip there is
and

that he can 'get the distance'

Bring them on -- would love to see him knock heads with some of those draft happy late running Euro's on a course that throws cavalry charges

I just want to thank some of the previous riders on this horse for having ****ED UP so many of his rides. It's a hard thing to do, getting a horse this good beat as often as he was.

Will be fascinating to see whether he can deal with a Presicous Passion on a fast track.

Obcourse I have the contrarian viewpoint again, while admitting Gio Ponti's performance was probably one of the better one's this past weekend, he outfooted the average Musketier to the finish line, I am fairly certain there will be tougher shippers on Arlington Million day than a longshot from Roger Attfield's barn from the north.

Agree.

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http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse...on/608121/top/

You and me against the world kiddo...well I think I am older than you.

:) :D

Narrowing it down to him beating Musketier is a terribly skewed way to look at the race. It ignores an extremely important element like the respective trips of the two versus some other competitors in the race. It also ignores the fact that in three races Gio Ponti has now beaten the mare who was regarded as one of, if not the best miler in America at a mile, a bulky field in the Manhattan that included a long list of Grade I winners at 10 furlongs and another strong lineup with two more European paper tigers, both of whom had outstanding trips and were flat in the stretch at 11 furlongs.

NT

I wasn't impressed with either the Europeans in the Man O War, I know where you are coming from and honestly I look fwd to these betting opportunities. Ie. BC last yr. for instance. Again while I concur GP overcame a trip that is not recognized enough over here by alot of handicappers(lack of cover) he will be overbet off of that trip against a mediocre 2nd place finisher and a third place horse renowned for finishing on the fridges in graded company. He's a good horse but at 2-1 or less off a performance that is not as good as most believe in my opinion, I will gladly go shopping for abit of value.

Was this what you were doing yesterday at FE at 8:5 and whining about afterwards?:rolleyes:

I was impressed with the way Gio routed the opposition this weekend! We'll most likely send better horses over than Chinchon and Quijano (CIma de Triomphe would be for example) but they would certainly need to be. Should be a very interesting race!

I think you were referring to me liking the filly a statement made at 10AM on Sunday morning, I am very sure I didn't say I was betting her at 1-5, 2-5 or even money for that fact. I simply said I liked her and given a 15/1 shot beat her by a nose with the 2 other most logical horses behind her, I think it was the correct assessment.

http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse...610295/latest/

Cima De Triomphe going for the King George next week rather than Arlington. It may stay at home this year!!

Let's see who shows up this yr, I suspect this race isn't as attractive to the Euro's as in yrs. past and even then you have Aiden O'Brien sending the second stringers ie. Powerscourt among others...No High Chaparral's that's a certain.

Cima could be back in the Million picture


http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/n...al_143133.html

Sounds like he is coming, book it. If Gio Ponti and Cima run their best races, I'll put my money on Cima everytime at what most likely will be much better odds than GP.