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Cunningham Racing 10-24-2006 11:26 AM

Henny is the best here but I am uneasy at taking too short a price on him in a race like the Sprint that is one of the TOUGHEST races in North America to win along with the BC Mile and Kentucky Derby....I actually think War Front is fast enough and good enough to have a big shot here....he can rate, unlike Commentator and some of the others with the talent to win this, and I think that makes him the most dangerous competition for Henny....

I'm not a fan of any of the California horses.....Kelly's Kanding is intriguing because he loves CD and is in great form right now, but even he doesn't appear as fast as Henny and War Front to me.....Too Much Bling is VERY intriguing for Baffert to toss him in here off the shelf.....he isn't as fast a 3YO as Henny but could capitalize if that one doesn't fire....interesting race.....pace should be as hot as always..

randallscott35 10-24-2006 11:36 AM

Henny is better at 6 than 7, so I wouldn't throw him out for that reason. Price dictates why I won't use him, but I won't be shocked if he won. Now Bordanaro winning would shock me.

hoovesupsideyourhead 10-24-2006 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Henny is better at 6 than 7, so I wouldn't throw him out for that reason. Price dictates why I won't use him, but I won't be shocked if he won. Now Bordanaro winning would shock me.

henny /sirens lure /pomeroy/war front...dats all folks,,

FATPIANO 10-24-2006 12:20 PM

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Scav 10-24-2006 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
Too Much Bling is VERY intriguing for Baffert to toss him in here off the shelf.....he isn't as fast a 3YO as Henny


He is as fast as him sheet wise.....although 2MB has only run one number as fast as him, I think it was that slop race he won, won't know until later, but either way, I using him.

I have no idea what HH's last number was, but I am going to assume it was somewhat similar

Kasept 10-24-2006 01:40 PM

Added Malibu Mint, Dubai Escapade and Michael Lewis to the list...

Buffymommy 10-24-2006 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Added Malibu Mint, Dubai Escapade and Michael Lewis to the list...


OH now I have to go with MM. I didn't think she would be in here, but I love her so. I just hope she isn't in over her head. DANG my friend for going to work for someone else now I can't get anymore inside scoop on her. :mad:

I will have to look over stuff then make my decision, but my "EMOTIONAL" pick is her.

FATPIANO 10-24-2006 02:20 PM

Buffymommy she is not over her head, she will win, I just know it, she loves 6 furlongs and had a winning race over the track. My best bet of the day

Buffymommy 10-24-2006 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FATPIANO
Buffymommy she is not over her head, she will win, I just know it, she loves 6 furlongs and had a winning race over the track. My best bet of the day


She is a beautiful filly. I really like her. My friend liked her. My heart will be rooting for her. She is only behind Gorella on my fave filly list. (I may have to put some $$ on her.)

Cunningham Racing 10-24-2006 03:10 PM

According to my sources, War Front and Lewis Michael were not Pre-entered but Gold Storm was

point given 10-24-2006 06:07 PM

Pomeroy
 
is an interesting horse. I backed him for 2 years at the spa and was off him in his other races. Now trained by Wolfson (Formerly Biancone) in florida and he will ship him in , just like saratoga. When he's on his game, he can eyeball just about anyone. Haven't taken a look at the pps to see if he ever ran at CD though. Prolly get 5-6/1 on him.

Cunningham Racing 10-24-2006 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
He is as fast as him sheet wise.....although 2MB has only run one number as fast as him, I think it was that slop race he won, won't know until later, but either way, I using him.

I have no idea what HH's last number was, but I am going to assume it was somewhat similar

He's not as fast as Henny Hughes

Hickory Hill Hoff 10-24-2006 06:51 PM

early pks: POMEROY / HENNY HUGHES / BORDANARO

Sightseek 10-24-2006 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by point given
is an interesting horse. I backed him for 2 years at the spa and was off him in his other races. Now trained by Wolfson (Formerly Biancone) in florida and he will ship him in , just like saratoga. When he's on his game, he can eyeball just about anyone. Haven't taken a look at the pps to see if he ever ran at CD though. Prolly get 5-6/1 on him.

Yes he has, ran 3rd in May of last year going 7furlongs behind Battle Won & Level Playingfield. 98 Beyer.

SCUDSBROTHER 10-24-2006 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
Henny is the best here but I am uneasy at taking too short a price on him in a race like the Sprint that is one of the TOUGHEST races in North America to win along with the BC Mile and Kentucky Derby....I actually think War Front is fast enough and good enough to have a big shot here....he can rate, unlike Commentator and some of the others with the talent to win this, and I think that makes him the most dangerous competition for Henny....

I'm not a fan of any of the California horses.....Kelly's Kanding is intriguing because he loves CD and is in great form right now, but even he doesn't appear as fast as Henny and War Front to me.....Too Much Bling is VERY intriguing for Baffert to toss him in here off the shelf.....he isn't as fast a 3YO as Henny but could capitalize if that one doesn't fire....interesting race.....pace should be as hot as always..


TOO MUCH BLING's work yesterday was at Santa Anita,and in company with DA STOOPS. “They went nice. They cruised around there.”--Trainer Bob Baffert

Bling is working in Cali,because he is a Cali horse.So,if you want to avoid using Cali horses(like you normally do,) then take note.

Scav 10-24-2006 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
He's not as fast as Henny Hughes

Yeah he is, SHEET WISE. Both of their tops are neg3's, this isn't including HH's last number, which I am not sure of

ArlJim78 10-24-2006 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch
Henny may be the best here, but I don't think 6f is his best distance. Remember Aldeberan a few years ago who was top notch at 7, but got outrun early and couldn't get up. Considering his probable odds, I'm going to have to take a shot against him.

Hey TG, you should take a look at HH's past performances. He is 5 wins in 5 tries at distances of six furlongs or less. He always races right up close to the pace, never coming from way back. You can never describe Henny as being outrun early in any race he has raced. He is typically 2nd by 1/2 length at the first call.

The comparison to Aldebaran doesn't hold up imo, that horse usually had to pass the entire field to get up.

If you ask me, six furlongs is probably the optimum distance for Henny.

Scav 10-24-2006 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
Hey TG, you should take a look at HH's past performances. He is 5 wins in 5 tries at distances of six furlongs or less. He always races right up close to the pace, never coming from way back. You can never describe Henny as being outrun early in any race he has raced. He is typically 2nd by 1/2 length at the first call.

The comparison to Aldebaran doesn't hold up imo, that horse usually had to pass the entire field to get up.

If you ask me, six furlongs is probably the optimum distance for Henny.

He is probably optimum at 5f to 8f quite honestly. The horse is a monster, no doubt but from a wagering aspect, I am going to go deep in this race

ArlJim78 10-24-2006 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Yeah he is, SHEET WISE. Both of their tops are neg3's, this isn't including HH's last number, which I am not sure of

looking at the Bris pace numbers TMB on his best is very close to Henny. What I can say though is that Henny's late pace has been fantastic, definetely better than TMB's. When I'm looking for a survivor of what is sure to be a brutal pace, I always look at the late number.
Need to see the post positions though first before getting too serious about handicapping this.

ArlJim78 10-24-2006 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
He is probably optimum at 5f to 8f quite honestly. The horse is a monster, no doubt but from a wagering aspect, I am going to go deep in this race

I hear ya, tough to single in here. To me Henny is most likely winner but I really don't have any idea yet how I'll play this.

If you ask me this years sprint is shaping up to be pretty salty. Several appear to belong here and have reasonable shots.


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