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2MinsToPost 10-09-2006 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Yeah they don't change. Guys play devils Advocate AFTER the race and then don't wanna back up their statements. Ho hum, just another day.
Curt why not bet 100 bucks then? You obviously feel you have a better opinion than mine, lets test it out.

No I don't. I will just stand their at Churchill and smile as Lava does the magic. Then I will find you and collect. :D

eurobounce 10-09-2006 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Street Sense may have been best on Saturday, I agree. But how you can use "the best that Cali has to offer" when its obvious that they aren't. Principle had a dream all ground saving ride on a speed biased SA Strip yesterday and ran his last 1/4 in 26 flat while getting beat. If thats their best than the east Coast is in great ****ing shape, that I can promise you.

How can you say that PS had a ground saving trip yesterday? The horse led the entire way in fast fast fractions and he lost by a neck. He went 22 45 1:10 - that is fast for any horse especially a two year old trying two turns. In addition, I believe one one horse won wire to wire on the dirt so I wouldnt say it was a speed favoring track. I think the track played to stalkers.

Cajungator26 10-09-2006 10:49 AM

Scat Daddy will win the BC Juvy... ;)

oracle80 10-09-2006 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost
No I don't. I will just stand their at Churchill and smile as Lava does the magic. Then I will find you and collect. :D

Typical coward.

eurobounce 10-09-2006 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Yeah they don't change. Guys play devils Advocate AFTER the race and then don't wanna back up their statements. Ho hum, just another day.
Curt why not bet 100 bucks then? You obviously feel you have a better opinion than mine, lets test it out.

Hey, I stated before the race I was betting against Quay and that I was betting Street Sense. I laid $400 to win on him and with a little racing luck he would have cross the wire first. But I am not playing devils advocate here.

oracle80 10-09-2006 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
How can you say that PS had a ground saving trip yesterday? The horse led the entire way in fast fast fractions and he lost by a neck. He went 22 45 1:10 - that is fast for any horse especially a two year old trying two turns. In addition, I believe one one horse won wire to wire on the dirt so I wouldnt say it was a speed favoring track. I think the track played to stalkers.

yeah that last 1/4 in 26 and getting run down by a confirmed quitter really had us all looking for future books on him. Hes off the board in the BC and you damn well know it.

eurobounce 10-09-2006 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
yeah that last 1/4 in 26 and getting run down by a confirmed quitter really had us all looking for future books on him. Hes off the board in the BC and you damn well know it.

I dont know about off the board. If he tries to go wire to wire in the BCJ then yes he is off the board. But with a nice pressing trip, I think he hits the board. Again, my horse is Street Sense if he goes.

oracle80 10-09-2006 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
I dont know about off the board. If he tries to go wire to wire in the BCJ then yes he is off the board. But with a nice pressing trip, I think he hits the board. Again, my horse is Street Sense if he goes.

I'll give you both of those against CQ at even money for 20 bucks. We on? CQ beats em both.

2MinsToPost 10-09-2006 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Typical coward.

Coward? No some of us actually have to work for a living. I am not made of money Mike. I said I respect you and your knowledge then you run amuck like this. Once again, you are the same as always.

oracle80 10-09-2006 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost
Coward? No some of us actually have to work for a living. I am not made of money Mike. I said I respect you and your knowledge then you run amuck like this. Once again, you are the same as always.

Look, you made the statement not me, I said lets bet on it. You said no. So obviously you don't believe your own bull****, which was all I was trying to prove and now I have.
Nothing personal.

Buffymommy 10-09-2006 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin
I thought the winner was a contender before the race. ( I used him in my ESPN pick 6 contest)


I did too zippy! Used him and CQ. and Birdbird, who I think was fourth.

2MinsToPost 10-09-2006 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Look, you made the statement not me, I said lets bet on it. You said no. So obviously you don't believe your own bull****, which was all I was trying to prove and now I have.
Nothing personal.

No I believe it but don't have to bet on it. So your point is that I have to bet on it to prove I really believe it otherwise it is bullsh..? Is that how all you NY'ers do things? What about just good ole debate? But see I understand what is going on here. Some little guy like me who has been around the game for a short couple years makes a statement, and it is a valid statement, about a horse that you have some love for. So, you resort to your usual tactics to prove your point. Nothing personal.

Gander 10-09-2006 11:04 AM

Mckaymckenna

The Bid 10-09-2006 11:05 AM

Horse greeley got bumped around like a ping pong ball at the break. Lost about 8 lengths. Rushed up, and had nothing left. Hes a nice horse, yesterday was a complete throwout. He didnt bounce, he didnt break.

zippyneedsawin 10-09-2006 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Buffymommy
I did too zippy! Used him and CQ. and Birdbird, who I think was fourth.


I used the top three finishers for the contest... do you think I actually bet the trifecta though??.... of course not! :rolleyes:

eurobounce 10-09-2006 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
I'll give you both of those against CQ at even money for 20 bucks. We on? CQ beats em both.

So I have Pricipal Secret and Street Sense and you have CQ. And if one of my two horses finish ahead of Quay I win? And we are wageing $20.

oracle80 10-09-2006 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
So I have Pricipal Secret and Street Sense and you have CQ. And if one of my two horses finish ahead of Quay I win? And we are wageing $20.

Yep, thats the deal.

Buffymommy 10-09-2006 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin
I used the top three finishers for the contest... do you think I actually bet the trifecta though??.... of course not! :rolleyes:

Doesn't that just suck! Funny thing was I actually liked Great Hunter because he was getting more distance. Now I find out he only won because he was on poly and had the better trip. Well crap, I can't handicap! I hate 2yr old races too!


:) :)

Gander 10-09-2006 11:09 AM

Can I have the Scott Schwartz entry of Dont Knock America and Pay Attention?

eurobounce 10-09-2006 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Yep, thats the deal.

Ok, I will take that deal ONLY if all three horses compete in the BCJ. If one of them scratch then the bet is off? If I win, go ahead and send $20 to the local salvation army.


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