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Old 11-07-2006, 07:01 PM
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Default Where's the Scat Daddy Thread?

Seems we have spent a lot of time talking about a number of horses from the BC but I can remember nary a mention of one of the most bragged about pre-BC entrants....Scat Daddy. I seem to recall him being the next new superstar just a few short days ago and suddenly his mediocre effort isn't even worth reviewing?

My thoughts? Well, certainly he was never as good as his internet persona, having run some nice races but never running fast enough to earn the kind of praise being thrown around. However, he had overcome trouble in one start ( albeit to beat a very mediocre Teuflesburg ), and at least I felt he was a deserving favorite heading into Saturday. However, he hardly even lived up to that praise. So...what happened? I would say two things, one he had never been two turns, and at least for now there has to be at least some question if he is best suited to one turn races of mostly a mile or less. Secondly, I don't feel he was the benefit of a greatly timed ride, being forced to move too soon into the teeth of a very competitive pace. And, finally, I do think it's worth weighing the very real possibility that he is yet another horse from that barn that showed his best stuff early only to peter out as the later races came along. I fully expect an explosive return at Gulfstream followed by a succession of increasingly disappointing efforts. However, he was certainly more than good enough to bounce back and still have a good year in 2007. I just wonder if he has distance limitations ( at best ) and will be forced onto the TC trail and have a More Than Ready like campaign that barely gives him even an opportunity to run to his strengths.

Anybody else care to check in? I would love to hear some UNBIASED analysis by really anyone but particularly those that were extremely enamored with him what seems like just minutes ago.
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Old 11-07-2006, 07:05 PM
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Default Still loads of upside

He will be very good just didn't get what he needed. Think Magnum or one of the many incredible Pletchers that aren't quite there.
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Old 11-07-2006, 07:07 PM
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He will be very good just didn't get what he needed. Think Magnum or one of the many incredible Pletchers that aren't quite there.
Who are the " many incredible Pletchers that aren't quite there "?

Sorry, but I don't get the Magnum reference. Feel free to enlighten me.
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Old 11-07-2006, 07:09 PM
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Was Scat Daddy running? I was too enthralled with Circular Quay err.... Street Sense " exploding to the lead "
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Old 11-07-2006, 07:12 PM
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There's a reason Pletcher sold out of his share as soon as he had the chance- he's just not that good. His figures were mediocre at Saratoga for the level (which obviously doesn't say much about his competition there, either...), evidenced by the fact that he had to struggle to get by Teuflesberg in the last jump in the 6F race.

He'll be gone by the 2nd 2007 Derby prep.
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Old 11-07-2006, 07:13 PM
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Was Scat Daddy running? I was too enthralled with Circular Quay err.... Street Sense " exploding to the lead "

You were just unduly influenced by those around you .
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Old 11-07-2006, 07:17 PM
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You were just unduly influenced by those around you .
very possible. LOL
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Old 11-07-2006, 07:53 PM
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the scat daddy thread came up near the top of the page earlier today.....

....but then it faded right down when it actually mattered.

fitting, huh?
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Old 11-07-2006, 08:00 PM
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I did bet not bet Scat Daddy Sat. I won't wirte him off just yet, though he may not ne two turn horse.

I DID bet CP West and Street Sense. We all know how Street Sense faired, any thoughts on CP West? Wondering if that last work took too much out of him.
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Old 11-07-2006, 08:01 PM
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I like Scat Daddy a lot...

I don't think the two turns were as much a problem as the distance. I think he might be better suited for a mile.
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Old 11-07-2006, 08:03 PM
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I like Scat Daddy a lot...

I don't think the two turns were as much a problem as the distance. I think he might be better suited for a mile.

Well, I guess that rules out a start at Charles Town or Timonium.
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Old 11-07-2006, 08:06 PM
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Well, I guess that rules out a start at Charles Town or Timonium.

WAY harsh! LOL
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Old 11-07-2006, 08:12 PM
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im sure your correct on all fronts..a nice run in gulfstream then...a move to the turf...the noble causway route..the move to the turf seems to be the trainers ace in the hole..."i always thought he was a turf horse"...lolafter that its finger lakes...

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Old 11-07-2006, 08:28 PM
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Well, I guess that rules out a start at Charles Town or Timonium.

Ahhhh....good ole Timonium....home of the 3 turn 6 furlong sprint
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Old 11-07-2006, 09:21 PM
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i cant believe nobody even thought i was funny.

i thought i was a hoot for what its worth
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Old 11-07-2006, 09:24 PM
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Quit strokin' urself.

Ok ok, you were V funny.........
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Old 11-07-2006, 09:25 PM
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Quit strokin' urself.

Ok ok, you were V funny.........
well come on, its not easy to be funny talking about horses, so it's not often that i try....

perhaps this was the reason
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Old 11-07-2006, 09:31 PM
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Got it. U R humor is understood!
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Old 11-08-2006, 03:44 AM
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I could care less what horses didn't do well on that day.If a horse ran well Saturday,then good,but I don't care if others didn't do well.Look....You f'n got 5 grade 1 winners in the sprint that couldn't hit the board.None of them.I'm sorry,but to me the results of the day don't mean much.Not when 5 grade 1 winners can't even get 3rd.That day is a toss(the dirt races,)and you will see that when horses that ran poorly on Saturday come back and run very well. If Pletcher said the horse wants 2 turns,then he wants 2 turns.I know people don't like it,but many horses could not handle that track.Seemed like Scat was o.k. until he left the rail and got out into the middle of the track.I wouldn't be too concerned about it.The day is gunna stand out like a sore thumb in the past performances of many horses.The riders of Grade one winners Bordonaro,Siren Lure,and Henny Hughes all said their horses couldn't handle that track.You want to ignore them( one,and all,)then fine.They ran great before that day,and they will run great after that day.That track was crap,and 5 or 6 months from now you will get that(but not now.)
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Old 11-08-2006, 07:39 AM
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RE: Scat Daddy

Don't know what all the fuss is about. Right now he seems fine to me. Expect to see him run well @ GP. Reasonably sure he'll beat the 3 horses that finished in front of him on Sat. I do not like to make predictions more the 5 MTP but this one ani't gonna cost me five cents.

With the exception of Byk, Philsiki and Mike it is a labor to read these other posters who are totally hopeless (even though every once in a while someone is correct about something). BTW, that will NOT let you give up your "day job".

Your handicapping, all around, is not that special.
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