Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Main Forum > Equine Health, Retirement & Aftercare
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 04-14-2011, 12:44 PM
OldDog's Avatar
OldDog OldDog is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: rancho por el mar
Posts: 3,161
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept View Post
How far he wants to go not withstanding, to be fair, he looked like an under the weather horse Saturday. His coat was dull and lifeless.
So, he felt poorly prior to the race, then he grabs a quarter leaving the gate. That's enough for me to give him the benefit of the doubt. Let's see how he works at Churchill and go from there.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 04-14-2011, 12:50 PM
The Indomitable DrugS's Avatar
The Indomitable DrugS The Indomitable DrugS is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,007
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaTruth View Post
Everything will be forgiven in two weeks when the dapples appear. Of course, the double-secret surgery conspiracy theorists will still toe the party line, but they will be dismissed as fringe players. Who will be the first to announce the dapples: Haskin, or Uncle Mo on his facebook page?
Asudevil told me about the secret surgery before he ever ran in the Timely Writer. He even told me who he heard it from.

Also - all the people who know people who know people - were buzzing about how something was supposedly wrong with the horse while he was out training and working on cue every Sunday ... and other horses (like The Factor and Premier Pegasus) were flat out missing works.

If I had to make a line on the secret surgery...

I'd say it's 90% that he had it.

10% that he didn't have it.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 04-14-2011, 12:51 PM
The Indomitable DrugS's Avatar
The Indomitable DrugS The Indomitable DrugS is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,007
Default

It was to remove an ankle chip if I recall.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 04-14-2011, 12:53 PM
ateamstupid's Avatar
ateamstupid ateamstupid is offline
Super Mod.. and Super Fly
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 13,036
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept View Post
How far he wants to go not withstanding, to be fair, he looked like an under the weather horse Saturday. His coat was dull and lifeless.
Can Maggie confirm that?
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 04-14-2011, 01:00 PM
asudevil's Avatar
asudevil asudevil is offline
Fairgrounds
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 1,574
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS View Post
Asudevil told me about the secret surgery before he ever ran in the Timely Writer. He even told me who he heard it from.

Also - all the people who know people who know people - were buzzing about how something was supposedly wrong with the horse while he was out training and working on cue every Sunday ... and other horses (like The Factor and Premier Pegasus) were flat out missing works.

If I had to make a line on the secret surgery...

I'd say it's 90% that he had it.

10% that he didn't have it.
And now the excuse is agida?? So he's going to get some horsey Brioschi and get on with it?? Alrighty then....
__________________
"I guess it comes down to a simple choice, really. Get busy livin' or get busy dyin'."
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 04-14-2011, 01:15 PM
freddymo freddymo is offline
Belmont Park
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 7,085
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ateamstupid View Post
Can Maggie confirm that?
Don't you mean DID Maggie point this out to her audience?
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 04-14-2011, 01:18 PM
HaloWishingwell's Avatar
HaloWishingwell HaloWishingwell is offline
Ak-Sar-Ben
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 654
Default

so can we call him G.I. Mo?
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 04-14-2011, 01:21 PM
The Indomitable DrugS's Avatar
The Indomitable DrugS The Indomitable DrugS is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,007
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by asudevil View Post
And now the excuse is agida?? So he's going to get some horsey Brioschi and get on with it?? Alrighty then....
Didn't they have an 'alabi dinner' before the Preakness every year? Where every trainer would concoct excuses for why they lost before the race?
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 04-14-2011, 01:23 PM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is offline
Steve Byk
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 42,607
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS View Post
Didn't they have an 'alabi dinner' before the Preakness every year? Where every trainer would concoct excuses for why they lost before the race?
Alibi Breakfast
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 04-14-2011, 01:26 PM
The Indomitable DrugS's Avatar
The Indomitable DrugS The Indomitable DrugS is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,007
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept View Post
Alibi Breakfast
I wonder if anyone ever used...

"Frischling bet on my horse"
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 04-14-2011, 01:29 PM
asudevil's Avatar
asudevil asudevil is offline
Fairgrounds
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 1,574
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS View Post
Didn't they have an 'alabi dinner' before the Preakness every year? Where every trainer would concoct excuses for why they lost before the race?
A present-day Preakness tradition, the Alibi Breakfast, which seems to grow larger every year, was founded in the Old Clubhouse. The late Vaughn Flannery, an artist who painted many scenes of Pimlico, is credited with proposing the Alibi Table in the corner of the Clubhouse. The table was set up early each morning during race meetings, by order of Joe Stevens, Sr. Trainers, racing officials and other guests dropped by during training hours for coffee and a food snack, and swapped racing stories. Many tales involved details of losing bets, hence the name—Alibi Table. Attendance grew over the years. Now 500 or more have breakfast at Pimlico on the Friday morning before the Preakness
__________________
"I guess it comes down to a simple choice, really. Get busy livin' or get busy dyin'."
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 04-14-2011, 01:41 PM
OldDog's Avatar
OldDog OldDog is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: rancho por el mar
Posts: 3,161
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HaloWishingwell View Post
so can we call him G.I. Mo?



Just so it's never Slo Mo.
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 04-14-2011, 04:42 PM
Indian Charlie's Avatar
Indian Charlie Indian Charlie is offline
Goodwood
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Southern Maine
Posts: 8,708
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS View Post
I wonder if anyone ever used...

"Frischling bet on my horse"
I've used it.
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 04-14-2011, 09:35 PM
DaTruth's Avatar
DaTruth DaTruth is offline
Churchill Downs
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 1,969
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS View Post
Asudevil told me about the secret surgery before he ever ran in the Timely Writer. He even told me who he heard it from.

Also - all the people who know people who know people - were buzzing about how something was supposedly wrong with the horse while he was out training and working on cue every Sunday ... and other horses (like The Factor and Premier Pegasus) were flat out missing works.

If I had to make a line on the secret surgery...

I'd say it's 90% that he had it.

10% that he didn't have it.
This is interesting. According to Paulick, "neither Pletcher nor Repole has responded to questions confirming or denying the surgery."
__________________
Still trying to outsmart me, aren't you, mule-skinner? You want me to think that you don't want me to go down there, but the subtle truth is you really don't want me to go down there!
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 04-15-2011, 09:54 AM
Thunder Gulch's Avatar
Thunder Gulch Thunder Gulch is offline
Churchill Downs
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Southland Greyhound Park
Posts: 1,846
Default

If the secret surgery is indeed true, it brings the conversation back full circle to where we were in November comparing Mo to Arazi. If I recall, Arazi missed quite a bit of training after the BC because of some bone chips, and he was never the same.
__________________
Do I think Charity can win? Well, I am walking around in yesterday's suit.
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 04-15-2011, 11:30 AM
Riot's Avatar
Riot Riot is offline
Keeneland
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 14,153
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch View Post
If the secret surgery is indeed true, it brings the conversation back full circle to where we were in November comparing Mo to Arazi. If I recall, Arazi missed quite a bit of training after the BC because of some bone chips, and he was never the same.
Yeah, but "bone chips" can be significant, or can be minor, or in between.
Plenty of horses have had surgery to remove chips, most often it's never mentioned to the public, most often the horses are fine.
__________________
"Have the clean racing people run any ads explaining that giving a horse a Starbucks and a chocolate poppyseed muffin for breakfast would likely result in a ten year suspension for the trainer?" - Dr. Andrew Roberts
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:20 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.