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Old 03-18-2007, 03:17 PM
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I guess I always wanted to title a thread "Delightful Kiss".

No, seriously, I liked this horse's 3rd in the TB Derby. The head-on replay showed that he ducked WAY out at the start, losing several lengths while trying to find the rest of the horses. After 1/4 mile Delightful Kiss was 9 lengths behind Any Given Saturday. At the end he was less than 6.5 lengths behind AGS. After spotting Street Sense a 6.5 length lead in that first quarter (much of it due to the start), Delightful Kiss kept pace for the rest of the race.

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Old 03-18-2007, 08:35 PM
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I guess I always wanted to title a thread "Delightful Kiss".

No, seriously, I liked this horse's 3rd in the TB Derby. The head-on replay showed that he ducked WAY out at the start, losing several lengths while trying to find the rest of the horses. After 1/4 mile Delightful Kiss was 9 lengths behind Any Given Saturday. At the end he was less than 6.5 lengths behind AGS. After spotting Street Sense a 6.5 length lead in that first quarter (much of it due to the start), Delightful Kiss kept pace for the rest of the race.

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I absolutely adored this horse... I'm glad someone else liked him too.
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Old 03-19-2007, 12:28 AM
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Methinks he merely sucked up for third.
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Old 03-19-2007, 05:27 AM
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Methinks he merely sucked up for third.
Did you watch the head on replay of the start, BTWind? The horse looked like it had a meeting it was trying to make near the outside rail.

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Old 03-19-2007, 12:32 PM
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I just watched the replay again at:

http://tampabaydowns.com/DailyReplays.aspx (choose 3/17, race 12)

It's almost comical watching Delightful Kiss zigzaggin at the start. From post 7 he gets out to post 11 before the rider cuts him back toward the inside rail. When he makes that cut, he looks like a rodeo horse chasing down an errant calf. (Only the head-on view shows how far he ducked out.)

Going 5-wide on the 2nd turn didn't help any, either.

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Old 03-19-2007, 04:18 PM
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The head on replay was comical.

While not a horse that is going to make anyones list of Derby horses, I am keeping this horse on my radar as I think he has shown noticeable improvement since adding lasix and going back to dirt. I think he is a little undervalued right now and could be the type that clunks up into the tri or super at a price.

If I can toot my own horn for a second, I keyed him third in the Tampa bay derby using Street Sense / Any Given Sat / Delightful Kiss / with three horses for fourth in the super. Not a huge payout but since my ticket was basically a $3 play it wasn't bad.
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Old 03-20-2007, 07:56 AM
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"losing several lengths while trying to find the rest of the horses."



This is a very bad sign.
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Old 03-20-2007, 09:58 AM
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"losing several lengths while trying to find the rest of the horses."



This is a very bad sign.
LOL

I just watched it again and he did look very confused as to which way he needed to run. I wonder how he would have done had he broken normally?
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Old 03-20-2007, 02:26 PM
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LOL

I just watched it again and he did look very confused as to which way he needed to run. I wonder how he would have done had he broken normally?
Breaking "normally" for him is still sort of slow. But I think his zigzag cost him at least 3 lengths, Cajun. He was 13 lengths behind after a first quarter run in 23:50! Give him another length for taking the 2nd turn 5-wide, and that puts him within a couple of lengths of Street Sense and AGS.

I'm looking forward to his next race.

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If I can toot my own horn for a second, I keyed him third in the Tampa bay derby using Street Sense / Any Given Sat / Delightful Kiss / with three horses for fourth in the super. Not a huge payout but since my ticket was basically a $3 play it wasn't bad.
"wasn't bad" is an understatement. Nice work, Jim.

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Old 03-20-2007, 04:51 PM
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He was actually finishing signing one last autograph when the gates opened and had to run back to the rail: "here kid, take this, I gotta go.."
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Old 03-22-2007, 09:55 AM
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LOL

I just watched it again and he did look very confused as to which way he needed to run. I wonder how he would have done had he broken normally?


Maybe that's why they had him break as they did.
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Old 03-29-2007, 07:52 PM
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I am leery of looking at him as a bet back. Supposedly there was a strong head wind on the back and strong tail wind on the home stretch. This favors closers. His closing run may have been a bit wind aided, passing several tired horses in the stretch who may have been working harder against the wind on the back stretch.

I dont know about SS and Any Saturday, I assume they were working very hard vis a vis one another so this may have helped Kiss suck up...

Hard to factor, I'm just a little skeptical. Others like.
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Old 04-01-2007, 06:56 PM
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This is only a test.



No one will be vaporized.
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Old 04-15-2007, 06:29 AM
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Methinks he merely sucked up for third.
Methinks you were right and I was wrong.

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I absolutely adored this horse... I'm glad someone else liked him too.

Got your picture, but it's on my phone. Batteries died in the camera. I think it's a decent shot of him... I can either send it to your phone or you can wait on me to figure out how to get it to my pc.
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