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Old 07-19-2017, 02:36 PM
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Definitely, I wasn't questioning the decision. He is obviously head strong during his races, my point was he could get hooked early.

I know. I was just clarifying the situation.

He's too headstrong for his own good. Maybe he will win, he's very talented, but horses like that are poor bets at short prices.
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Old 07-19-2017, 07:44 PM
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One of the better Schuylerville renewals I can remember.
Is this because the field is evenly matched? It seems rather so so talent wise, i wasnt really able to separate them much.
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Old 07-19-2017, 08:40 PM
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Old 07-19-2017, 08:57 PM
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Is this because the field is evenly matched? It seems rather so so talent wise, i wasnt really able to separate them much.
In this day and age, horses are almost never going to come into this race with more than 1 or 2 starts. With that said, this is a pretty stout group in that they all earned solid speed figures thus far, and the pair of stakes winners did so against males and in a very fast race.

The Schuylerville has had some future GI winners and some rather subpar winners. This feels like a running where the winner will end up being OK.
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Old 07-19-2017, 09:25 PM
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Who is doing the morning line at Saratoga this year ?
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Old 07-20-2017, 04:50 AM
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Who is doing the morning line at Saratoga this year ?
Hate to side with you but when i handicapped Tuesday I was hoping for 3-1 on Defiant Honor then I saw 10-1.
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Old 07-20-2017, 07:30 AM
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Hate to side with you but when i handicapped Tuesday I was hoping for 3-1 on Defiant Honor then I saw 10-1.
See... Everyone can get along. Atta boys!
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Old 07-20-2017, 03:07 PM
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I was only asking who was making it, not complaining about it. Joe rockhead is the one griping about it.
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Old 07-20-2017, 04:40 PM
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Is this because the field is evenly matched? It seems rather so so talent wise, i wasnt really able to separate them much.
I think you're not remembering how weak on figures this race usually is. And no, it doesn't hurt that they're evenly matched and coming from all different directions. Fascinating race.
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Old 07-20-2017, 04:42 PM
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I was only asking who was making it, not complaining about it. Joe rockhead is the one griping about it.
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Old 07-20-2017, 05:36 PM
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I was only asking who was making it, not complaining about it. Joe rockhead is the one griping about it.
Didnt you want to try and have civil educated racing talks? Im doing my part. Staying out of selections, etc..... I'm not complaining I'm saying i believe at post time there is no way Defiant Honor is even half her ML. Shes a 7-2 shot.
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Old 07-21-2017, 08:25 AM
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Didnt you want to try and have civil educated racing talks? Im doing my part. Staying out of selections, etc..... I'm not complaining I'm saying i believe at post time there is no way Defiant Honor is even half her ML. Shes a 7-2 shot.
A lot of people like this horse so odds will come down. But looking at this field the 10-1 is a fair opening line. There are A ton stakes winners in the race that deserve to be lower odds. Sweeping Paddy is my choice in a fun event
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Old 07-21-2017, 09:02 AM
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A lot of people like this horse so odds will come down. But looking at this field the 10-1 is a fair opening line. There are A ton stakes winners in the race that deserve to be lower odds. Sweeping Paddy is my choice in a fun event
She's a player, but she totally tripped out last time.
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Old 07-21-2017, 09:54 AM
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A lot of people like this horse so odds will come down. But looking at this field the 10-1 is a fair opening line. There are A ton stakes winners in the race that deserve to be lower odds. Sweeping Paddy is my choice in a fun event
Sweeping Paddy's last was spectacular. I'm just concerned about her running well outside of KY.

Everyone can have Defiant Honor. I like Party Boat.
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Old 07-21-2017, 10:10 AM
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Sweeping Paddy's last was spectacular. I'm just concerned about her running well outside of KY.

Everyone can have Defiant Honor. I like Party Boat.
What was her excuse last time?
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Old 07-21-2017, 10:12 AM
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Sweeping Paddy's last was spectacular. I'm just concerned about her running well outside of KY.

Everyone can have Defiant Honor. I like Party Boat.
I also think this horse might be getting a little too much credit versus these established graded winners, and the fact that there looks to be pace in this race so i would be shocked to see her alone on an easy lead. I'm often wrong, but i feel like this race is pretty logical, 11-1.

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Old 07-21-2017, 10:20 AM
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Dream Dancing gets away from division stalwarts La Coronel and New Money Honey finally. She owns a win from the outside post on this course (her maiden win) last year. She's had a bit of trouble/disadvantage her last 3: wide and left too much to do at Keeneland; hard held when lacking room on the far turn at Churchill; and having to challenge early in the slow pace dictated by New Money Honey in the Wonder Again.

Won't have to come out of her comfort zone again with stablemate Victory To Victory--who has a world of speed--in there to ensure a contentious pace.
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Old 07-21-2017, 03:34 PM
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That was a very tough beat...not too happy with the ride I suppose.
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Old 07-21-2017, 05:07 PM
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Proctors Ledge gets the L in the Lake George . The number 8 hoss in the ninth race. She will get the money.
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Old 07-21-2017, 08:38 PM
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great call
was alive in the pick 4 to 2-6-9 in the last.
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