Oaks-Derby Weekend Beyers: Orb 104

Kasept · #1 05-03-2013, 09:27 PM

CD Kentucky Derby (G1): Orb 104 (Malibu Moon) C. McGaughey/J. Rosario
CD Woodford Reserve S (G1): Wise Dan 104 (Wiseman's Ferry) C. LoPresti/J. Lezcano
CD Churchill Downs S (G2): Delaunay 109 (Smoke Glacken) T. Amoss/R. Napravnik
CD Humana Distaff S (G1): Aubby K 91 (Street Sense) R. Nicks/E. Prado
CD Churchill Distaff Turf Mile S (G2): Stephanie's Kitten 100 (Kitten's Joy) W. Catalano/J. Leparoux
CD Kentucky Oaks (G1): Princess of Sylmar 97 (Majestic Warrior) T. Pletcher/M. Smith
CD Alysheba S (G2): Take Charge Indy 109 (A.P. Indy) P. Byrne/R. Napravnik
CD La Troienne S (G2): Authenticity 102 (Quiet American) T. Pletcher/J. Velazquez
CD Twin Spires Turf Sprint S (G3): Berlino Di Tiger-BRZ 92 (Tiger Heart) E. Caramori/L. Goncalves
CD American Turf S (G2) Noble Tune 86 (Unbridled's Song) C. Brown/J. Castellano
CD Eight Belles S (G3): So Many Ways 85 (Sightseeing) T. Amoss/G. Gomez
CD Edgewood S: Kitten's Dumplings 90 (Kitten's Joy) M. Maker/J. Rosario

BHP Mervyn LeRoy H (G2): Liaison 105 (Indian Charlie) B. Baffert/M. Garcia
BHP Cool Frenchy S: Comma to the Top 100 (Bwana Charlie) P. Miller/E. Maldonado

BEL Beaugay S (G3): Hessonite 94 (Freud) D. Donk/J. Alvarado
BEL Fort Marcy S (G3): Lubash 96 (Freud) C. Clement /J. Alvarado

WO Fury S: Spring in the Air 87 (Spring At Last) M. Casse/P. Husbands

Kasept · #2 05-05-2013, 09:03 AM

Orb 104

Calzone Lord · #3 05-05-2013, 04:58 PM

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CD Kentucky Derby (G1): Orb 104

CD La Troienne S (G2): Authenticity 102 (Quiet American) T. Pletcher/J. Velazquez

The two horses that ran identical races at every fraction on the FLA Derby card came within 2 points of each other.

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CD Alysheba S (G2): Take Charge Indy 109

Orb also middle'd Take Charge Indy and Golden Ticket on the Fla Derby Undercard. What figure did Golden Ticket run in his Friday win, Steve?

NTamm1215 · #4 05-05-2013, 05:11 PM

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The two horses that ran identical races at every fraction on the FLA Derby card came within 2 points of each other.

Orb also middle'd Take Charge Indy and Golden Ticket on the Fla Derby Undercard. What figure did Golden Ticket run in his Friday win, Steve?

Golden Ticket got a 92.

Calzone Lord · #5 05-05-2013, 05:28 PM

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Golden Ticket got a 92.

A 109 and a 92 middles at 100.5

So, the barometer for Orb would have been in the 100.5 to 102 range... hats off to him for beating it.

Still, Beyers are final time figs, and that killer pace helped him, just as it did the horse who followed him Mylute (99 BSF) and even helped Golden Soul little more so because he was inside.

IMO, if Beyers are your figures of choice, the question in the Preakness certainly becomes 'Who can run a race better than 101 or 102?'

There's no easy looking answer to that one with Normandy out of the way and obviously Dreaming of Julia won't wheel back off of all that happened in the Oaks ... but, a 102 isn't exactly an impossible mountain to climb even for what's left out there.

MISTERGEE · #6 05-06-2013, 10:29 AM

THANKS in advance guys but is there a way I can look up a beyer # from calder on 05-03-13

Kasept · #7 05-06-2013, 11:01 AM

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THANKS in advance guys but is there a way I can look up a beyer # from calder on 05-03-13

Horse?

Clip-Clop · #8 05-06-2013, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

A 109 and a 92 middles at 100.5

So, the barometer for Orb would have been in the 100.5 to 102 range... hats off to him for beating it.

Still, Beyers are final time figs, and that killer pace helped him, just as it did the horse who followed him Mylute (99 BSF) and even helped Golden Soul little more so because he was inside.

IMO, if Beyers are your figures of choice, the question in the Preakness certainly becomes 'Who can run a race better than 101 or 102?'

There's no easy looking answer to that one with Normandy out of the way and obviously Dreaming of Julia won't wheel back off of all that happened in the Oaks ... but, a 102 isn't exactly an impossible mountain to climb even for what's left out there.

I would like to think Oxbow will run a solid race in MD.

10 pnt move up · #9 05-06-2013, 11:27 AM

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I would like to think Oxbow will run a solid race in MD.

Gonna be the hot horse in Baltimore IMO off the trip and probably third choice at 6/1 which pretty much makes him tough to play when his real odds of winning are much lower.

Clip-Clop · #10 05-06-2013, 11:29 AM

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Gonna be the hot horse in Baltimore IMO of the trip and probably third choice at 6/1 which pretty much makes him tough to play when his real odds of winning are much lower.

Agree but I can see him running a Schakleford type race that could get it done.

Conrad · #11 05-06-2013, 11:39 AM

Goldencents could seriously rain on Oxbow's parade at Pimlico.
He has visions of turning it into a parade but Goldencents is every bit as quick early.
This could be a perfect set up for Orb, who will likely go by them anyways, no matter the pace.

Kasept · #12 05-06-2013, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Conrad

Goldencents could seriously rain on Oxbow's parade at Pimlico.
He has visions of turning it into a parade but Goldencents is every bit as quick early.
This could be a perfect set up for Orb, who will likely go by them anyways, no matter the pace.

Add Vyjack to the pace press mix as well..

Calzone Lord · #13 05-06-2013, 12:11 PM

Vyjack is the type of horse who could win the King's Bishop imo.

I don't get it.

His dam is a Stravinsky half to Disco Rico and Disco Rico is just about the fastest sprinter I've ever seen. Led after a quarter in every single career start, all of them sprinting, and many of them tough sprint stakes.