Crist Article on TV Coverage

[the_fat_man]

ESPN? Who the **** are they?

Since live track feeds became available on TWINSPIRES (and other ADW's) who turns on ESPN for racing?

And, how does racing regaining popularity put money in my pocket?

Crist wants to sell DRF subscriptions, so he has his agenda (and followers).

[Oaklawnfan]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

ESPN? Who the **** are they?

Since live track feeds became available on TWINSPIRES (and other ADW's) who turns on ESPN for racing?

And, how does racing regaining popularity put money in my pocket?

Crist wants to sell DRF subscriptions, so he has his agenda (and followers).

Unfortunately there are those of us who not only love the sport but participate at the window and ownership at the lower level of claimers and starter allowance type horses in states that do not allow any type of wagerering. Our only live racing opportunity is to drive over and hour to a state that allows simulcasting and para mutual wagering on horses. In the meantime we watch TVG and HRTV and place our plays off shore just to be participating. If I could have access to Twin Spires and Expessbet it would be wonderful. Better coverage of sport would bolster fields and purses. Just look at those on ESPN who support the sport. I just don't see any Jim McKays in the bunch, eventhough I love Kenny Mane. While we might think him as a dinosaur, Steven D. I believe has it right. Promote handicapping to the younger adults because it's the only thing in a casino where you can truly improve your odds on winning. Perfect for a Racino. Oh, yea, the after races concert with cheap beers works well too.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Monarchos1

ESPN has no one to blame but itself if ratings on racing broadcasts have declined. The network's telecasts, particularly the actual races with camera cuts every 4-5 seconds, have made racing unwatchable. And I won't even address some of the talent, or lack thereof, issues. If the Breeders' Cup doesn't get out of its multi-year ESPN contract quickly, fans will need a search warrant to find those races on one of the network's branded channels within a year or two.

novice players, the fringe who I guess this thread is stating its trying to attract are not going to care about camera angles and they are not going to have a clue what the on air talent is saying.

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man

ESPN? Who the **** are they?

ask hockey how its like to not be on ESPN anymore.

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Since live track feeds became available on TWINSPIRES (and other ADW's) who turns on ESPN for racing?

thats a silly statement, you do understand that in lots of states in the country you cant even get an account with Twinspires or Youbet to watch races as a fan or gambler.

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

And, how does racing regaining popularity put money in my pocket?

You have said lots of things I disagree with but this might be the most damning, I guess you would like the pools you play in only filled with professional players. I guess if you go to a poker game you want to sit down with Doyle Brunson, Phil Ivey, Phil Helmuth and Johnny Chan rather then some mental rejects who want to throw away their money.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Yea, I am sure you are right, racing just needs another Secretariat and all will be back to the way it was (I know you did not say that but it seems to be the prevailing opinion.

There is no single cure-all for racing. But having its stars race longer (and more often) would not be a bad thing.

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

I put about 3k through Ellis Pick Four that summer, so on that take it was only about 150 bucks but it sure beat the nothing I would have wagered.

In 2005 I put 100k through the windows, last year I put about 5k, I assure you it had nothing to do with good horses in the sport, it only cost horseman around 17k by my not playing, no big deal, I am small time.

It sounds like you put a healthy proportion of your 2007 action into the Ellis Pic4. A few others on this board did likewise.

The Ellis 4% Pic4 pools were mostly between $18K-$30K. $30K is a pitiful fraction of the money bet each day on horses. I personally accounted for over 1% of the Ellis Pic4 action that summer, averaging over $300/day into the pool. My betting was a combination of recognizing a good opportunity and seeing a need to support that promotion. It would only have taken another 100 bettors like me to have made that promotion seem a lot more successful.

Gamblers show time after time that odds are of minimal importance to them. I wrote this back in 2007:

In Las Vegas, you now see blackjack players sitting down to play a game where a blackjack pays 6:5 as if it doesn't matter that they are not getting the 3:2 offered nearby. (You'd think they'd regret the $15 they are shorted on a $50 natural!) You see video poker players sitting at a Jacks Or Better game with an 8-5 pay schedule, even though they could easily find a 9-6 pay schedule. It shouldn't have surprised me that horse players would continue to flock to 25% takeout even when 4% takeout is available. But it did surprise me. I thought we as a group were a notch above the casino lemmings.

Since writing that, the 6:5 blackjack game has spread to many more casino pits. 9-6 Jacks-Or-Better video poker is becoming rarer, because most casino patrons will still play if the game is 8-5. I haven't seen anything to show that horseplayers would respond in a significant way to a lower takeout, either.

--Dunbar

[2MinsToPost]

Not bad coverage on the local Fox Sports station of the racing action from WV

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Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost

Not bad coverage on the local Fox Sports station of the racing action from WV

And a good team there as well

super bias speed today at Mnr, I bet heavy on Big Drama, hoping to get 7/5.

[2MinsToPost]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

And a good team there as well

super bias speed today at Mnr, I bet heavy on Big Drama, hoping to get 7/5.

wow, Big D at 3/5 betting favorite. I'm surprised.

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Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost

wow, Big D at 3/5 betting favorite. I'm surprised.

Big Drama went head to head with RA and was only beaten 5, he is a better horse than MTB.

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**** me, Big Drama sucks

now we know why Borail had no want to commit to MTB, PT loss