NY restricts hyperbaric treatments - 1 week out

Scav · #1 07-28-2009, 03:14 PM

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...apy-for-horses

What I want to know is how they can regulate this?

Riot · #2 07-28-2009, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...apy-for-horses

What I want to know is how they can regulate this?

Because oxygen is a drug. Trainers are attempting to increase the oxygen carried within the plasma on race day.

Because they have the right to regulate anything racehorses get prior to entry in a race in their jurisdiction, if they desire, including electromagnetic therapy, magic LED red lights in expensive blankets, acupuncture, herbs, extracorporeal shockwave therapies, etc.

BTW, the Veterinary Hyperbaric Medicine Society (http://www.vet.utk.edu/vhms/review.html has a good summary of hyperbaric medicine in the equine) encourages stronger regulation of veterinary hyperbaric medicine, just as the human side has regulated dive medicine and medical hyperbaric chamber use over the years.

Right now veterinary hyperbaric medicine in the hands of lay people, for the most part.

The Indomitable DrugS · #3 07-28-2009, 03:42 PM

If it gets enforced - will it make any impact on Mike Maker?

Scav · #4 07-28-2009, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

If it gets enforced - will it make any impact on Mike Maker?

Riot · #5 07-28-2009, 03:45 PM

I think there are quite a few chambers in use in California.

Cannon Shell · #6 07-28-2009, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...apy-for-horses

What I want to know is how they can regulate this?

They can't by any means other than simply catching them in the act. Though you know the investigators will be all over them.

GBBob · #7 07-28-2009, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

Because oxygen is a drug. Trainers are attempting to increase the oxygen carried within the plasma on race day.

Because they have the right to regulate anything racehorses get prior to entry in a race in their jurisdiction, if they desire, including electromagnetic therapy, magic LED red lights in expensive blankets, acupuncture, herbs, extracorporeal shockwave therapies, etc.

BTW, the Veterinary Hyperbaric Medicine Society (http://www.vet.utk.edu/vhms/review.html has a good summary of hyperbaric medicine in the equine) encourages stronger regulation of veterinary hyperbaric medicine, just as the human side has regulated dive medicine and medical hyperbaric chamber use over the years.

Right now veterinary hyperbaric medicine in the hands of lay people, for the most part.

I think his question was more HOW are they going to enforce not why they would.

jwkniska · #8 07-28-2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

I think there are quite a few chambers in use in California.

there are a few... HRTV did a documentary on them (saw it on a Sat or Sun morning a few weeks ago).

Cannon Shell · #9 07-28-2009, 03:51 PM

From the article

"Sabini said the directive was crafted after an operator of a hyperbaric therapy chamber sought approval from NYRA to set up the equipment at Saratoga track. NYRA refused the request, and the operator located the equipment off track grounds in the city of Saratoga Springs. "

yeah these regulators are right on top of things....

Scav · #10 07-28-2009, 04:05 PM

I have to know how oxygen is a drug??

But yeah, unless this board plans on putting someone onsite at this place, this is all pr, and there is probably somewhere within 75 miles that has a chamber on a farm as it is....

Cannon Shell · #11 07-28-2009, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

I have to know how oxygen is a drug??

But yeah, unless this board plans on putting someone onsite at this place, this is all pr, and there is probably somewhere within 75 miles that has a chamber on a farm as it is....

The issue will be with moving horses back and forth off the track every day. If every day the same horse leaves for a couple hours...
And being that they just discovered this "new" therapy I'm sure they will all over this place.

Riot · #12 07-28-2009, 04:15 PM

100% oxygen (not room air, which is 21% oxygen) is a drug just like propofol or codeine or an antibiotic. I can easily kill you with 100% oxygen

You are supposed to have a medical license to be able to purchase it and dispense it. Which isn't always true, indeed.

I thought they were going to have a hyperbaric chamber at the Ruffian hospital outside Belmont (something I would think is a good thing)

Unlike NYRA, I'd be more worried about someone blowing out a bleb in a bleeder's lungs, or causing severe pain in an undiagnosed tooth abcess, or hurting a horse with an impacted gutteral pouch or a sinus infection, rather than if a horse had a hyperbaric treatment on race day.

Apparently nobody has shown the NYRA an oxyhemoglobin dissociation curve, regarding the duration of effect of increased plasma oxygenation?

Riot · #13 07-28-2009, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The issue will be with moving horses back and forth off the track every day. If every day the same horse leaves for a couple hours...
And being that they just discovered this "new" therapy I'm sure they will all over this place.

Which is why it should be allowed on track. The real issues are safety (for the horse and others not involved) and which favored contractor gets the gig.

Cannon Shell · #14 07-28-2009, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

Which is why it should be allowed on track. The real issues are safety (for the horse and others not involved) and which favored contractor gets the gig.

Which wont happen because the tracks arent going to take the risk, especially for little gain.