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My perception is that these bettors find one good spot/sequance a day to wager on. Depending on where they live, it's probably not worth the hassle to go all the way to the track for one wager.
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Most serious bettors these days are playing lots of horses all around the country and trying to take advantage of rebates. It is much easier to do from home than at the track.
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There are plenty of SERIOUS BETTORS that go to Saratoga on a regular basis...many of them may not end up being impacted by this price increase because they have credentials...but taking your statement above as a stand alone, I cant agree.
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I've said countless times now that Saratoga is different. Even then, it is much easier to play other tracks and Saratoga itself from home, and at a better price.
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Of these tracks with comparable prices, how many are subsidized by a casino like the NYRA tracks?
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"at a better price"...ahhhh they do allow cellphones at the track these days
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Well, sure, but home is still easier. I'm sure you know this. And part of the "better price" is that there are none of these track charges, not just betting.
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For me the best reason for going to the track is to see the horses in the paddock...and on a less serious note the Spa scenery isn't too bad either
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yes, of course. so, that is at variance with say...admission, seats and parking at other tracks? like i said earlier in the thread, arlington was $7 each last time i went, several years ago. since it was 7 at arlington, that means i can't discuss 5 at belmont? i mean, it's still green dollars with george washington on them, right?
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yes, easier, but not nearly as much fun as going to the track.
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All depends on the person. I personally like going now and then. But outside of Saratoga, I don't see joy on the faces of many people when I go.
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An old horse player dies and goes to heaven...St Peter greets him at the pearly gates and says "Let me give you the grand tour." They do the tour and St Peter asks him what he thinks? The old horse player says "Well it certainly is nice but.... It ain't Saratoga."
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i'm sorry if out of all this you only take away the notion that i go once every few years. |
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i've always had a great time, husband does as well. my kids still talk about the trips to churchill and arlington, and of course oaklawn. we had a great time with bob, brian, miraja and others in chicago. met a derby trailer at oaklawn last year in the carousel. |
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You get that this ploy of making NYRA "profitable" on the balance sheets for 2014 is part of the plan to not "subsidize" NYRA right? Not to mention that it isnt in any way a subsidy, it is part of payment for the billion dollars of land the state now officially owns.
Having a philosophical argument about charging horsepalyers for extra's is a interesting topic. However in NYRA's case it isnt a apples to apples argument because there is real doubt about the true goals of the oversight board or at the very least the Chairman and several members. Plus virtually every racino is required by law not to charge admission. I mean who would hire Kay if the goal was to maximize profits at an entity that handles over 20% of the 10 billion or so bet in this country? |
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Weekends at Monmouth are lovely, plenty of families enjoying a very clean and healthy environment, The 30 day meet was outstanding, wouldn't it be intelligent to revisit these extremely abbreviated meets with as bloated purses as possible without slot or government money? So 5 claimers run for 21 instead of 30 whats the harm in trying again? As you have since said bettors loved that meet, big pools, full fields, and lots of variety, I understand they used a bunch of casino money to bloat a lot of the meet and it was a fantasy but there has to be a sweet spot for much shorter meets that attract bigger fields because of larger more concentrated purses. Shouldnt this always be about building handle? Doesnt high handle fix lots of problems?
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As to Saratoga and the hit to those who attend most of the season, do they still offer the season pass? It has been a couple years since I lived there, but if they do still offer this, it is a great deal for frequent attenders.
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