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Old 11-01-2013, 09:56 PM
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handle will be down if they dont..imo
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:05 PM
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Fixing it could actually make it worst. I have a wedding tomorrow and will be placing all of my bets at 11am. I already adjusted. Took out horses like Summer Applause and New Years Day and added speed horses like Diamond Bachlor and Starship Truffles.
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:56 PM
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Track has been playing this way for a while,don't expect it to change now,until i see them harrowing clockwise which i've thought slows it down ?But we will not see it.
Remember Trinniberg last year who usually would get caught late but motored on ?
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Old 11-01-2013, 11:23 PM
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Track has been playing this way for a while,don't expect it to change now,until i see them harrowing clockwise which i've thought slows it down ?But we will not see it.
Remember Trinniberg last year who usually would get caught late but motored on ?
Trinniberg won that race on the square. Speed was good last year, but not like today.
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Old 11-02-2013, 08:45 AM
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and thats what good handicappers do,they adjust. This is part of playing this game. You find a bias and ride it.
I don't like the bias more than anyone, but this is exactly what I told a friend of mine last night when he was flipping out. The distaff was actually bettable if you just tossed Princess, and I believe there will be several opportunities to use what we learned yesterday to adjust when the vast majority of folks will just look at the Beyer and go to the windows. Euros on grass, speed on dirt until you see evidence of something else. Easy game
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Old 11-02-2013, 09:01 AM
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and thats what good handicappers do,they adjust. This is part of playing this game. You find a bias and ride it.

Finally somebody who makes sense....
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Old 11-02-2013, 09:33 AM
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Doing the speed figures for SA yesterday, I felt it justified to split the variant after race 4 on the dirt. I felt evidence was strong enough to suggest that the dirt track slowed down a few lengths after race 4.

I'm not too big on variant splits either. IMO, had the Distaff or Dirt Mile been run as one of the first four races, the times (fractions and final) would have even been faster.
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Old 11-02-2013, 10:02 AM
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Call me crazy but i didn't see any blatant bias. Yesterdays track couldn't compare to Belmonts extreme bias it displayed during that stretch during BC preview weekend.
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Old 11-02-2013, 10:05 AM
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Call me crazy but i didn't see any blatant bias. Yesterdays track couldn't compare to Belmonts extreme bias it displayed during that stretch during BC preview weekend.
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