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Old 11-01-2010, 11:42 AM
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With Haynesfield putting a nice breezing half in 50. 1/5 and having top connections does he stand a shot? Not sure what to make of the JCGC and his 107 Beyer which may set him up for a bounce? He surely will not have it alone on the front end in the Classic...or will he?

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Old 11-01-2010, 11:45 AM
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With Haynesfield putting a nice breezing half in 50. 1/5 and having top connections does he stand a shot? Not sure what to make of the JCGC and his 107 Beyer which may set him up for a bounce? He surely will not have it alone on the front end in the Classic...or will he?

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I would think the pace will be a little hotter then his last win. I don't see him in the top three.
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Old 11-01-2010, 05:08 PM
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Don't see him as lone speed but if they tighten up CD dirt like some past derbys, he could be tough on the lead. I see him taking some of the starch out of the pressers and close stalkers.

It's not love for me but something to like or to fatten up an exacta or tri under IMO.
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Old 11-01-2010, 05:54 PM
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No.
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Old 11-01-2010, 06:30 PM
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I hope not...wont use him anywhere on top.
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Old 11-02-2010, 04:39 AM
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He'll be in my super(s).
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Old 11-02-2010, 06:34 AM
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He's not my top choice but I can't toss him with the way he's come to hand this year. Word is he's been training great and in a Classic field this weak, you have to include the hot horse IMO.
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Old 11-02-2010, 07:08 AM
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From Mike Welsch

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Haynesfield (Classic, four furlongs in 50 seconds): The final time was less important than the manner in which the Jockey Club Gold Cup winner went about this easy half-mile breeze. Breaking off about two jumps from the pole rather than taking the long run up that’s common place before any nongate work, Haynesfield completed his opening eighth-mile in 13.05, and with exercise rider Cesare Chavez grabbing into him a couple of times around the turn went an opening quarter in a pedestrian 25.96. He proceeded to shade 25 seconds for the final quarter while just cruising along on his own courage and then did his best running in the gallop out from the wire to the seven-eighths pole, tugging his rider through another furlong in 12.55 while striding out smoothly and effortlessly around the bend. He has made a good appearance all week and appears to really be flourishing coming up to Breeders’ Cup Day.
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Old 11-02-2010, 07:16 AM
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That horse had more machines and wires hooked up to him yesterday than I have ever seen in my life .

I would like to know if they do this to him all the time or just started this.
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Old 11-02-2010, 08:19 AM
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That horse had more machines and wires hooked up to him yesterday than I have ever seen in my life .

I would like to know if they do this to him all the time or just started this.
What kind of machines? like therapy type stuff?
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Old 11-02-2010, 08:22 AM
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What kind of machines? like therapy type stuff?
No one is talking. Trying to find that out.
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Old 11-02-2010, 08:45 AM
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No one is talking. Trying to find that out.
Didn't you see him?
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Old 11-02-2010, 08:48 AM
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Not in my plans. There is enough speed signed on to discount IMO.
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Old 11-02-2010, 08:59 AM
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Not in my plans. There is enough speed signed on to discount IMO.
Even though he doesn't need the lead? Are you chucking Quality Road too?
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Old 11-02-2010, 09:18 AM
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Even though he doesn't need the lead? Are you chucking Quality Road too?
Chucking is strong. Not using highly
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Old 11-02-2010, 09:36 AM
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I think Haynesfield may end up being the horse a lot of people regret dismissing so quickly. I know he had it easy last time, but he still did it like a very good horse and he doesn't need the lead. I wouldn't just automatically toss the horse who won the JCGC by open lengths without at least thinking about it for a while.
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Old 11-02-2010, 09:39 AM
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Even though he doesn't need the lead? Are you chucking Quality Road too?
You really think Quality Road can get 10 furlongs?
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Old 11-02-2010, 09:44 AM
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You really think Quality Road can get 10 furlongs?
You're not following. Randall's logic for pitching Haynesfield was the pace. So I asked if he was tossing Quality Road too, since people are generally higher on him and he's tactically similar. I prefer Haynesfield to Quality Road.
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Old 11-02-2010, 09:47 AM
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I'm glad I read this thread. I'm looking at Haynesfield now and starting to really like him. He had an excuse two-back when he broke through the gate, and he's getting the exact same spacing Curlin got when he won and ran arguably the best race of his life at Monmouth - race in early August, two months off and then JCGC to BC.
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Old 11-02-2010, 09:50 AM
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You're not following. Randall's logic for pitching Haynesfield was the pace. So I asked if he was tossing Quality Road too, since people are generally higher on him and he's tactically similar. I prefer Haynesfield to Quality Road.
It depends on whether you think Quality Road needs the lead. I don't think he does.
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