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Old 02-24-2014, 05:12 PM
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KENTUCKY DERBY FUTURE WAGER POOL 3

Feb. 27-March 1 -- Pool Closes Saturday, March 1 at 4:17 p.m. EST, which is post time for Aqueduct’s Gotham Stakes.

1 Albano* 30-1
2 Bayern* 15-1
3 Cairo Prince 8-1
4 California Chrome 30-1
5 Candy Boy 20-1
6 Conquest Titan 30-1

7 Constitution* 20-1
8 General a Rod* 20-1
9 Honor Code 10-1
10 Indianapolis 20-1
11 Intense Holiday 15-1
12 Kobe’s Back* 20-1

13 Kristo 30-1
14 Noble Moon 30-1
15 Samraat 30-1
16 Shared Belief 12-1
17 Strong Mandate 20-1
18 Tamarando* 30-1

19 Tapiture 15-1
20 Top Billing 8-1
21 Uncle Sigh 50-1
22 Vicar’s in Trouble 30-1
23 Wildcat Red* 20-1
24 All Other 3 YOs 6-1

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* - new wagering interest from KDFW Pool 2
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Old 02-24-2014, 05:16 PM
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Not many from pool one left as individual intersts
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Old 02-24-2014, 05:22 PM
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SB 12-1 ML?

I gotta think he's going to be 50/1 by the end of the pool.

Two months and a week until the race and he's just about nearing his first workout?
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Old 02-24-2014, 06:02 PM
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Candy Boy, Bayern and Uncle Sigh would be the 3 I played.
Uncle Sigh's price goes way down after this Saturday though.
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Old 02-24-2014, 08:49 PM
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Candy Boy, Bayern and Uncle Sigh would be the 3 I played.
Uncle Sigh's price goes way down after this Saturday though.
What makes you think Uncle Sigh is going to turn the tables on his 'rival' Saturday?
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Old 02-24-2014, 09:29 PM
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What makes you think Uncle Sigh is going to turn the tables on his 'rival' Saturday?
I think he is the better horse, and I think the jockey change will be huge for him. I think he wins last time if he was outside, so I do concede that could be an issue again this Saturday. Im not saying I love him to win the Derby. We are talking about value, at 50-1 I think he has as much upside as anyone still. You gotta be a fan of him, right? With that sire and all.
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Old 02-25-2014, 01:05 AM
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I think he is the better horse, and I think the jockey change will be huge for him. I think he wins last time if he was outside, so I do concede that could be an issue again this Saturday. Im not saying I love him to win the Derby. We are talking about value, at 50-1 I think he has as much upside as anyone still. You gotta be a fan of him, right? With that sire and all.
Obviously I like him, but I don't think he's all that much. Who knows though, maybe he's better away from NY.

If he had been in last years crop, I think he'd have been a much better horse, relative to the crop.

If I had to bet a shot in the Derby this year, as of right now, I guess I'd go with Kristo. Lot's of good horses in front of him though.
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Old 02-25-2014, 08:40 AM
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Candy Boy, Bayern and Uncle Sigh would be the 3 I played.
Uncle Sigh's price goes way down after this Saturday though.
Hey don't be doing that to Candy Boy. I got him 32-1 last pool.
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Old 02-25-2014, 09:11 AM
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California Chrome looks like an improving colt.
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Old 02-25-2014, 10:36 AM
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KENTUCKY DERBY FUTURE WAGER POOL 2 FINAL ODDS & WILL PAYS

Feb. 6-8, 2014

# Wagering Interest -- Morning Line Odds -- Final Odds -- $2 Will Pay

1 Bobby’s Kitten 30-1 46-1 $94.00
2 Cairo Prince 8-1 13-1 $29.60
3 California Chrome* 50-1 30-1 $63.40
4 Candy Boy* 50-1 32-1 $67.20
5 Commissioner 20-1 22-1 $47.00
6 Conquest Titan* 30-1 29-1 $61.80

7 Havana 30-1 28-1 $59.20
8 Honor Code 10-1 12-1 $26.20
9 Indianapolis* 20-1 25-1 $53.80
10 Intense Holiday* 50-1 69-1 $140.20
11 Kristo* 30-1 76-1 $155.20
12 Matterhorn* 50-1 63-1 $129.00

13 Midnight Hawk* 20-1 19-1 $40.80
14 Noble Moon 30-1 47-1 $97.80
15 Rise Up 30-1 47-1 $96.40
16 Samraat* 30-1 30-1 $62.60
17 Shared Belief (g) 10-1 14-1 $30.80
18 Strong Mandate 20-1 17-1 $37.40

19 Tapiture* 20-1 38-1 $78.40
20 Tonalist* 50-1 48-1 $99.20
21 Top Billing* 15-1 13-1 $29.80
22 Uncle Sigh* 50-1 73-1 $149.20
23 Vicar’s in Trouble* 20-1 42-1 $87.40
24 All Other 3-Year-Olds 7-5 3/2 $5.00

(g) – gelding (*) – new wagering interest in Pool 2

Win Pool: $287,323
Exacta Pool: $ 92,926
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California Chrome looks like an improving colt.
I think he's absolutely the one to take a flyer on, because if he has a good showing in the San Felipe you won't get those odds on him the rest of the way. He got the jump on Tamarando in his last and ran away.
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Anybody got anything on Bobby's Kitten? TIA
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Anybody got anything on Bobby's Kitten? TIA
Working steadily. He was initially mentioned for the Blue Grass after coming back in the Palm Beach. I would expect to see him in the PB this weekend at Gulfstream.

Chad Brown should also bring back Testa Rossi in the Herecomesthebride, which is this weekend as well.
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Feb. 27-March 1 -- Pool Closes Saturday, March 1 at 4:17 p.m. EST, which is post time for Aqueduct’s Gotham Stakes.

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Hey don't be doing that to Candy Boy. I got him 32-1 last pool.
Yes so do I. And I talked about him in that thread as well.
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Old 02-25-2014, 03:19 PM
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Yes so do I. And I talked about him in that thread as well.
Pretty good value in a decent horse.
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Feb. 27-March 1 -- Pool Closes Saturday, March 1 at 4:17 p.m. EST, which is post time for Aqueduct’s Gotham Stakes.

I agree.
Totally understand why they want to close the wager before the start of the race, but that's 1:17 pacific time. They're apt to lose a lot of handle this time around by not allowing it to go later in the day and/or into Sunday.

I imagine a lot of players would like to see what their balance is at the end of Saturday, and then decide how much they want to play on the future wager.
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Old 02-25-2014, 06:03 PM
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Pretty good value in a decent horse.
I agree. He still seems to be learning also. Love the huge premature move he made vs Shared Belief.
Hoping if he meets Bayern, Stevens sticks with Candy Boy. I think Byk likes him to I remember him mentioning him in that first thread.
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Derby FUtures this weekend, saw in couple of places that DRF will have pps in all THurs- Sat editions. Went to liquor store to by tomorrows form here in Northern CA. Looked thru both editions for Fri, small and big simo no pps.

Thursdays editions had them, but no OAKS pps.

Unbelievable, no wonder the handle is down.

Darren Rogers are you paying attention?
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Derby FUtures this weekend, saw in couple of places that DRF will have pps in all THurs- Sat editions. Went to liquor store to by tomorrows form here in Northern CA. Looked thru both editions for Fri, small and big simo no pps.

Thursdays editions had them, but no OAKS pps.

Unbelievable, no wonder the handle is down.

Darren Rogers are you paying attention?
Will this help?

http://www.brisnet.com/brisnet_promos/14TCNomsPPs.pdf
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