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Old 01-06-2020, 05:21 AM
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Default 1/25 (GP): Pegasus ~ UPDATE: Omaha Beach out..

$3 million PEGASUS WORLD CUP

To be run Saturday as race 12 of 12
Post time: 5:45 p.m. Eastern
TV: NBC (4:30-6)
For 4-year-olds and up at 1 1/8 miles

(PP, Horse, Jockey, GP M/L)

1. TRUE TIMBER, J.Bravo, 20-1
2. TAX, J.Ortiz, 12-1
3. DIAMOND OOPS, J.Leparoux, 20-1
4. SEEKING THE SOUL, J.Velazquez, 30-1
5. OMAHA BEACH, M.Smith, 7-5
6. HIGHER POWER, F.Prat, 6-1
7. WAR STORY, J.Rosario, 30-1
8. MR FREEZE, L.Saez, 30-1
9. SPUN TO RUN, J.Castellano, 7-2
10. MUCHO GUSTO, I.OrtizJr., 9-2
11. TENFOLD, T.Gaffalione, 30-1
12. BODEXPRESS, E.Jaramillo, 30-1



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$1 million PEGASUS WORLD CUP TURF

Race 11 of 12
Post time, 5:15
For 4-year-olds and up at 1 3/16 miles (turf)

(PP, Horse, Jockey, GP M/L)

1. ZULU ALPHA, T.Gaffalione, 12-1
2. ARKLOW, L.Saez, 6-1
3. WITHOUT PAROLE, F.Dettori, 4-1
4. SADLER’S JOY, J.Castellano, 8-1
5. CHANNEL CAT, J.Velazquez, 10-1
6. INSTILLED REGARD, I.OrtizJr., 10-1
7. ADMISSION OFFICE, F.Prat, 30-1
8. HENLEY’S JOY, J.Leparoux, 30-1
9. NEXT SHARES, J.ValdiviaJr., 30-1
10. MO FORZA, J.Rosario, 5-1
11. SACRED LIFE, J.Ortiz, 12-1
12. MAGIC WAND, R.Moore, 7-2
13 (AE). TUSK, no rider, 30-1

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Old 01-06-2020, 07:58 AM
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Unfortunate the West’s would rather run in Saudi Arabia than the Pegasus against a real challenger.

They must need the money
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Old 01-06-2020, 09:24 AM
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Competitive turf race...interesting to
see Starship Jubilee take a shot
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Old 01-06-2020, 09:52 AM
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Looking at that Pegasus field Maximum Security would have been tough to beat there as main speed. Turf race looks fun.
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Old 01-06-2020, 11:15 AM
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I've seen the future, and it's not too inspiring.
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Old 01-06-2020, 03:38 PM
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Looking at that Pegasus field Maximum Security would have been tough to beat there as main speed. Turf race looks fun.
Too bad they were afraid of Omaha Beach
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Old 01-06-2020, 05:26 PM
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How do they come up with the invite list? Was Performer excluded or do the connections have no interest running in the Pegasus?
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Old 01-06-2020, 08:18 PM
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Unfortunate the West’s would rather run in Saudi Arabia than the Pegasus against a real challenger.

They must need the money
They have no children and are VERY charitable people. Maybe Servis wants the easy cake? It's a lot of easy money and Saudi is beautiful this time of year
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Old 01-07-2020, 08:53 AM
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They have no children and are VERY charitable people. Maybe Servis wants the easy cake? It's a lot of easy money and Saudi is beautiful this time of year
Kind of easy to be charitable when you’re a billionaire, no? Not that it has anything to do with my post.

They’ve been VERY careful with him since the Derby, protecting him, running him in spots where he can’t lose (but did.)

I guess the fan in me would rather see them take on a legitimate contender than run in Saudi Arabia against no one, but I’m crazy that way.
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Old 01-07-2020, 09:42 AM
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Kind of easy to be charitable when you’re a billionaire, no? Not that it has anything to do with my post.

They’ve been VERY careful with him since the Derby, protecting him, running him in spots where he can’t lose (but did.)

I guess the fan in me would rather see them take on a legitimate contender than run in Saudi Arabia against no one, but I’m crazy that way.
Looking at the horses with that race as a possibility, aren’t McKinzie and Gift Box both better than Omaha Beach? Unless you’re talking about a horse other than OB in the Pegasus.

That said, I really would have liked to see Omaha Beach and Maximum Security face off.
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Old 01-07-2020, 04:57 PM
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Looking at the horses with that race as a possibility, aren’t McKinzie and Gift Box both better than Omaha Beach? Unless you’re talking about a horse other than OB in the Pegasus.

That said, I really would have liked to see Omaha Beach and Maximum Security face off.
McKinzie would need every bit of Baffert magic to be close to Omaha Beach IMO and Gift Box couldn’t warm him up.
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Old 01-07-2020, 10:34 AM
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Kind of easy to be charitable when you’re a billionaire, no? Not that it has anything to do with my post.

They’ve been VERY careful with him since the Derby, protecting him, running him in spots where he can’t lose (but did.)

I guess the fan in me would rather see them take on a legitimate contender than run in Saudi Arabia against no one, but I’m crazy that way.
They are giving away their entire net worth. I would love to see the horse stay in States and race here, and who the hell wants to support a race that is sure to alienate the handicap division for us further? West seems to be a complicated guy many love him and many not so much...takes all types
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I think everyone would love to see Omaha Beach and Maximum Security race and hopefully it happens. I don't think MS is ducking OB. Why would he have to? Its all about money. Its always about money.
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Old 01-07-2020, 04:58 PM
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They are giving away their entire net worth. I would love to see the horse stay in States and race here, and who the hell wants to support a race that is sure to alienate the handicap division for us further? West seems to be a complicated guy many love him and many not so much...takes all types
So what is your point other than the usual straddle both sides of the fence? Do you have one?
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Kind of easy to be charitable when you’re a billionaire, no? Not that it has anything to do with my post.

They’ve been VERY careful with him since the Derby, protecting him, running him in spots where he can’t lose (but did.)

I guess the fan in me would rather see them take on a legitimate contender than run in Saudi Arabia against no one, but I’m crazy that way.
Well, when I asked the question before “do fans deserve any consideration?”, you answered no. So why go questioning the motives of owners here?
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Well, when I asked the question before “do fans deserve any consideration?”, you answered no. So why go questioning the motives of owners here?
Dahoss doesn't need me to defend him, but you are twisting his comments. When did he demand they should run him somewhere because the "fan" in him wishes they would? He never denied fans have a right to wish for things.

But you knew all that.
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Old 01-14-2020, 09:48 AM
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Well, when I asked the question before “do fans deserve any consideration?”, you answered no. So why go questioning the motives of owners here?
We’re talking about two different things.

Your desire for Bricks and Mortar to run in the Classic (on a surface he’d never run on and a surface his trainer didn’t think he could stand up on) and my opinion that the West’s/Servis are protecting Maximum Security by avoiding real competition on a track he’s 3 for 3 on are very different things.

It’s like the Zenyatta thing we discussed in that thread. I think the Moss’s did the sport a disservice protecting Zenyatta like they did but at the end of the day hard to argue with the results. IMO Maximum Security is being coddled, but it’s worked so far.
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Old 01-08-2020, 04:41 AM
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With Bravazo heading to Hot Springs for a campaign towards the Oaklawn H., they're down to these 11 assuming Magic Wand runs on the 'turf' which Horse Racing Ireland indicated Tuesday..

1. Omaha Beach
2. Higher Power
3. Mr Freeze
4. Roadster
5. Seeking the Soul
6. Spun to Run
7. Tax
8. Mucho Gusto
9. War Story
10. Diamond Oops
11. True Timber

Magic Wand
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Old 01-13-2020, 07:25 AM
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As of today..

1. Omaha Beach
2. Higher Power
3. Mr Freeze
4. Seeking the Soul
5. Spun to Run
6. Tax
7. War Story
8. Diamond Oops
9. True Timber
10. Tenfold
11. Midcourt
12. Bodexpress

And Turf as of today..

1. Arklow
2. Magic Wand
3. Henley's Joy
4. Next Shares
5. Sadler's Joy
6. Channel Cat
7. Instilled Regard
8. Mo Forza
9. Without Parole
10. Zulu Alpha
11. Sacred Life
12. Admission Office

New Reserve invitees: Synchrony, Tusk, American Tattoo.
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No Sister Charlie,Uni or Bricks and Morter?
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