Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Stakes Archive
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-28-2019, 04:07 AM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is offline
Steve Byk
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 42,548
Default 3/30 (GP): Florida Derby Day







__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-29-2019, 07:29 AM
Bogey's Avatar
Bogey Bogey is offline
Del Mar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: South Florida
Posts: 5,449
Default

Great set of races for the Mandatory Rainbow 6 payout (if it's not hit on Friday). Hoping the dicey weather stays away.

It will be a marathon day with early action from Dubai and 14 races at Gulfstream.

Looking forward to enjoying it at Gulfstream. Good Racing Luck
__________________
Good jockeys don't need instructions and bad ones don't follow them
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-29-2019, 08:26 AM
knickslions2's Avatar
knickslions2 knickslions2 is offline
Longchamps
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Ohio
Posts: 13,436
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogey View Post
Great set of races for the Mandatory Rainbow 6 payout (if it's not hit on Friday). Hoping the dicey weather stays away.

It will be a marathon day with early action from Dubai and 14 races at Gulfstream.

Looking forward to enjoying it at Gulfstream. Good Racing Luck
Have a few beers for me Gus!!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-29-2019, 09:13 AM
Bogey's Avatar
Bogey Bogey is offline
Del Mar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: South Florida
Posts: 5,449
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by knickslions2 View Post
Have a few beers for me Gus!!
Yeah, will do. Also, plan on having my traditional Manhattan Clam Chowder after Race 5. It's solid, but not as good as it was at Calder.
__________________
Good jockeys don't need instructions and bad ones don't follow them
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-29-2019, 09:24 AM
knickslions2's Avatar
knickslions2 knickslions2 is offline
Longchamps
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Ohio
Posts: 13,436
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogey View Post
Yeah, will do. Also, plan on having my traditional Manhattan Clam Chowder after Race 5. It's solid, but not as good as it was at Calder.
I love the red chowder. Boston airport terminal B has Rhode Island chowder that is one of the best I ever had.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-29-2019, 10:10 AM
RHT2004 RHT2004 is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 4,829
Default

Feels chalky to me.
4th.... How does Prince Lucky lose?
5th.... Im using only the 1. The Chad Brown horse he beat last time is OK.
6th.....Im using 4,6. Im trying to beat the ML chalk, but i highly doubt shes favored at post time.
8th.....3,6
10th.... 6,8,9 some prices here. Im confident i have the winner with those 3.
13th.....1 pressed with a little 3,6,8
14th..... 1 LOCK CINCH CANT BE DEFEATED
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-29-2019, 11:08 AM
moses's Avatar
moses moses is offline
Oriental Park
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 3,604
Default

Code of Honor getting post #9 seems like a bad draw for him. He got a really nice inside trip last time with a perfect pace set up for him. Both the pace and his trip will probably be worse for him this time around. I’m tossing him.

Maximum Security is a complete wildcard. I agree with Steve Haskin (I think that’s who talked about him on the show) you almost can’t handicap the horse. The first 3 starts show very good sprint speed but the ability to run some more. The pedigree is interesting with AP Indy on the dam side...but the other horses on that side aren’t very impressive. And he’s faced almost no one. My biggest concern is if Mott wants to rate with Hidden Scroll and there’s no pressure on the pace, is it a possibility that Maximum Security gets the lead and just runs away with it?
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-29-2019, 11:38 AM
knickslions2's Avatar
knickslions2 knickslions2 is offline
Longchamps
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Ohio
Posts: 13,436
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by moses View Post
Code of Honor getting post #9 seems like a bad draw for him. He got a really nice inside trip last time with a perfect pace set up for him. Both the pace and his trip will probably be worse for him this time around. I’m tossing him.

Maximum Security is a complete wildcard. I agree with Steve Haskin (I think that’s who talked about him on the show) you almost can’t handicap the horse. The first 3 starts show very good sprint speed but the ability to run some more. The pedigree is interesting with AP Indy on the dam side...but the other horses on that side aren’t very impressive. And he’s faced almost no one. My biggest concern is if Mott wants to rate with Hidden Scroll and there’s no pressure on the pace, is it a possibility that Maximum Security gets the lead and just runs away with it?
I think you'll get some pace here from a few others. Jonny V will give Code of Honor a nice ride should be okay from 9 hole to get in position as 7 and 8 horse should be pushing to lead. I'm going 6 deep here. Its a fun betting race and feel I need coverage.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-29-2019, 12:28 PM
moses's Avatar
moses moses is offline
Oriental Park
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 3,604
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by knickslions2 View Post
I think you'll get some pace here from a few others. Jonny V will give Code of Honor a nice ride should be okay from 9 hole to get in position as 7 and 8 horse should be pushing to lead. I'm going 6 deep here. Its a fun betting race and feel I need coverage.
Who are your 6? Hidden Scroll, Current, Harvey Wallbanger, Bourbon War, Maximum Security, and Code of Honor?

The way I see it, the two most likely outcomes are: (1) Hidden Scroll rates well and wins or (2) He doesn’t and Bourbon War takes it. But these preps have been hard to predict. With the way things have been going, I don’t know if I’d even be surprised if Bodexpress breaks his maiden here.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-29-2019, 12:48 PM
knickslions2's Avatar
knickslions2 knickslions2 is offline
Longchamps
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Ohio
Posts: 13,436
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by moses View Post
Who are your 6? Hidden Scroll, Current, Harvey Wallbanger, Bourbon War, Maximum Security, and Code of Honor?

The way I see it, the two most likely outcomes are: (1) Hidden Scroll rates well and wins or (2) He doesn’t and Bourbon War takes it. But these preps have been hard to predict. With the way things have been going, I don’t know if I’d even be surprised if Bodexpress breaks his maiden here.
Right on for my 6. Think any of them can win but if I had to narrow it down it would be 3, 4 and 9. Harvey looks ready to roll and Bourbon and code of honor are will be there. Good luck
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 03-29-2019, 01:19 PM
Alabama Stakes Alabama Stakes is offline
Havre de Grace
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: suffolk downs
Posts: 5,811
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RHT2004 View Post
Feels chalky to me.
4th.... How does Prince Lucky lose?
5th.... Im using only the 1. The Chad Brown horse he beat last time is OK.
6th.....Im using 4,6. Im trying to beat the ML chalk, but i highly doubt shes favored at post time.
8th.....3,6
10th.... 6,8,9 some prices here. Im confident i have the winner with those 3.
13th.....1 pressed with a little 3,6,8
14th..... 1 LOCK CINCH CANT BE DEFEATED
What about race 9,11,&12 ?
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 03-29-2019, 02:05 PM
RHT2004 RHT2004 is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 4,829
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by knickslions2 View Post
Right on for my 6. Think any of them can win but if I had to narrow it down it would be 3, 4 and 9. Harvey looks ready to roll and Bourbon and code of honor are will be there. Good luck
6 deep is insane. If you need a backup its Code of Honor.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 03-29-2019, 02:07 PM
RHT2004 RHT2004 is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 4,829
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes View Post
What about race 9,11,&12 ?
Ill post later. Ill say this in the maiden turf race i hope the Pletcher is chalk. I could 6 deep and not have that horse.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 03-29-2019, 02:08 PM
moses's Avatar
moses moses is offline
Oriental Park
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 3,604
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by knickslions2 View Post
Right on for my 6. Think any of them can win but if I had to narrow it down it would be 3, 4 and 9. Harvey looks ready to roll and Bourbon and code of honor are will be there. Good luck
Agreed. I don’t really like Current but Pletcher seems to be pushing the right buttons right now so not sure he can be completely overlooked. I think I’m going to roll with Hidden Scroll and Bourbon War.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 03-29-2019, 02:14 PM
moses's Avatar
moses moses is offline
Oriental Park
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 3,604
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RHT2004 View Post
Ill post later. Ill say this in the maiden turf race i hope the Pletcher is chalk. I could 6 deep and not have that horse.
That’s going to be an interesting race. Hopefully we have nice weather tomorrow.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 03-29-2019, 06:06 PM
RHT2004 RHT2004 is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 4,829
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by moses View Post
That’s going to be an interesting race. Hopefully we have nice weather tomorrow.
Race 9....I'm using 1,2,10,12. I'm confident I have the winner.
Race 11..... I'm using 3,5.
Race 7..... 2,3,10,11,13
Race 12.... Pressing 1,3.....Backing up w/ 8,9
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 03-29-2019, 06:55 PM
moses's Avatar
moses moses is offline
Oriental Park
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 3,604
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RHT2004 View Post
Race 9....I'm using 1,2,10,12. I'm confident I have the winner.
Race 11..... I'm using 3,5.
Race 7..... 2,3,10,11,13
Race 12.... Pressing 1,3.....Backing up w/ 8,9
Haven’t looked at Race 7 but I like a lot of the same horses as you in the other races. You don’t like the #11 in Race 12?
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 03-29-2019, 08:22 PM
RHT2004 RHT2004 is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 4,829
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by moses View Post
Haven’t looked at Race 7 but I like a lot of the same horses as you in the other races. You don’t like the #11 in Race 12?
I do not.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 03-29-2019, 09:26 PM
Alabama Stakes Alabama Stakes is offline
Havre de Grace
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: suffolk downs
Posts: 5,811
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RHT2004 View Post
Race 9....I'm using 1,2,10,12. I'm confident I have the winner.
Race 11..... I'm using 3,5.
Race 7..... 2,3,10,11,13
Race 12.... Pressing 1,3.....Backing up w/ 8,9
In the ninth race the 4 hoss is out of Henny Hues. She was was a stone cold runner. You might want to include at a price.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 03-30-2019, 12:56 AM
richard burch's Avatar
richard burch richard burch is offline
Churchill Downs
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: new jersey
Posts: 1,751
Smile

Harvey Wallbanger gets the perfect closing trip up the rail and wins by a head.....and give me 15/1.....

Gulfstream Park 3/23/2019 Dirt 4F 47.10 Breezing 1/100
__________________
Support your local Re-run or horse rescue organization.
https://www.rerunottb.com/:)
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:42 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.