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Old 09-26-2019, 11:26 AM
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Old 10-01-2019, 05:25 PM
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Bricks and Mortar on fence for Breeders' Cup Turf
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Bricks and Mortar, unbeaten leader of the American turf division this year, may start in the $2 million Breeders’ Cup Mile instead of the $4 million Breeders’ Cup Turf, trainer Chad Brown said earlier this week. Both races are Nov. 2 at Santa Anita.

Brown added that whichever race the seven-time stakes winner runs in, he is unlikely to race before then. Bricks and Mortar won his fifth stakes of 2019 in the Arlington Million at 1 1/4 miles on Aug. 10 at Arlington Park.
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It makes no sense to me why you would go for
less money in a much tougher race. Last time Bricks & Mortar raced
at a mile was a year ago. Lots of people love the cut back
angle but most BC winners are specialists at their respective distance
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Old 10-09-2019, 11:56 AM
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It makes no sense to me why you would go for
less money in a much tougher race. Last time Bricks & Mortar raced
at a mile was a year ago. Lots of people love the cut back
angle but most BC winners are specialists at their respective distance
Feel free to share Bricks and Mortar's 12F races.
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Old 10-09-2019, 12:30 PM
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This is true, but I still think he has
a better chance and more money in the turf
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This is true, but I still think he has
a better chance and more money in the turf
That's a fair question. I think he has a better chance in the Mile but from an expected value, strictly earnings based, he may be better off in the 12F race.

It's a reasonable discussion.
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Old 10-22-2019, 05:05 PM
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BALLYDOYLE: Aidan O'Brien says Magical entered in Turf and F&M Turf and likely for the F&M; Fleeting will run in the F&M Turf..
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I’m loving Vasilika to upset sister Charlie. Horse looks ready to roll, distance should be perfect and give me Prat on this course.
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I know she won last year going 10 furlongs, but to me it’s a stretch right now for her to win going this far. But then I think Washington will definitely win the World Series.
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I’m loving Vasilika to upset sister Charlie. Horse looks ready to roll, distance should be perfect and give me Prat on this course.
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Old 10-31-2019, 10:23 AM
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Hey Billy United in the Turf is another one Prat is on that could be sneaky here. Its a tough race.
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Exclamation F&M TURF: Thais forced out as vet SCR..

Thais scratched from BC Filly and Mare Turf by CHRB's Dr. Rick Arthur
By Dave Grening

Thais, who was entered in Saturday’s $2 million Breeders’ Cup Filly and Mare Turf at Santa Anita to act as a pacemaker for probable favorite Sistercharlie, was scratched on Thursday based on the recommendation of Dr. Rick Arthur, the equine medical director for the California Horse Racing Board.

“She was placed on the vet’s list as unsound,” Arthur told Daily Racing Form Thursday, declining to get into specifics of the unsound area.

Thais is trained by Chad Brown and owned by Peter Brant. Thais has run in three consecutive Grade 1 stakes to ensure there would be pace for Sistercharlie who won all three of those races _ the Diana, Beverly D and Flower Bowl. As recently as Saturday, Thais worked five furlongs in 1:00.80 in company with Sistercharlie at Belmont Park before both mares shipped to Southern California on Monday.

“She was taken out of the race by the chief veterinarian here,” Brown said. “I disagree with it, this filly’s been extremely sound in all of her works, races and daily training. Unfortunately, it’s not our call so we’re just going to move on into the race and hopefully Sistercharlie can still work out a good trip.”

Brown noted that Thais was in last year’s Breeders’ Cup Filly and Mare Turf, but broke poorly and never got to the lead, but Sistercharlie still won.

“We had her in there for a reason so obviously we felt it was in Sistercharlie’s benefit to have Thais in the race,” Brown said. “So in that regard it makes it more challenging. That said, Thais was in the race last year, missed the break and was never better than fifth I don’t think whole way, did no work, and [Sistercharlie] was able to win.”

The scratch of Thais reduces the Filly and Mare Turf field to 11. Mirth, winner of the Grade 1 Rodeo Drive on the front end here on Sept. 28, could play out as the primary speed.
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