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I apologize for any 'trouble' that ensued while I was at work...but that was not and has never been my intent. Furthur, I have never posted on another forum in my life so Blue Eyes is barking up the wrong tree there.
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By the way, I'm not particularly big on pedigree when I go to a sale. The main thing that I'm interested in is a horse's ability and you can tell quite a bit about a horse's ability from watching them work. That being said, I'm still not going to pay $800,000 for a horse with no pedigree. Even if he's a really good horse and he wins a couple of stakes races and makes a few hundred thouand dollars, you will still lose money on him. The horse would have to be a super-horse for you to make money on him. |
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Beth its a slang term that many have heard at the track. You watch a race and you hear a guy say "the 2 snapped". Its ugly and I myself get sickened at horses breaking down. I guess its one of those terms you hear a lot and forget that its gonna offend most people. I am sorry i used the word, I'm not defending it, there are better ways to put it. But noone else thought I meant "this is great stuff" and was referring to the horses breaking down. I think this stuff is an excuse for a lotta guys to continue to overdrill horses(like I said in Cali, a few guys are now on SIX DAY PATTERNS!!!!) and folks are gonna run horses who have no business being on the track because they think Poly will prevent them from breaking down. I'm sure not rooting for horses to die to say i told you so, that would make me like the scumbag Democrats who root for soldiers to die in Iraq so they can say i told you so, and there isn't anything lower than that. |
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We need to get one thing straight...Marty Collins has never said that PolyTrack is "maintenance free." Keeneland and Marty Collins have all said the following; "Minimum maintenance is required compared to a conventional dirt track because the Polytrack surface needs less watering and less harrowing." No where in this statement does it state that PolyTrack is "maintenance free." You can get this quote from Marty Collins web site and here is the link: http://www.polytrack.com/advantages.html. Also, if you click on the below link you can view the PowerPoint presentation to the California Horsemen....http://www.polytrack.com/presentation/index.html. You should be not getting any other info from PloyTrack from anywhere else other than Keeneland or Marty Collins.
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If you are going to buy a horse privately should you get any information from anyone but the seller? Should you have it vetted, jogged, scoped, or just take the sellers word? How about when you buy a used car, just take the sellers word, dont even bother putting it up on a lift? How about with a house, any inspection, or just take the sellers word everything is up to code?? I guess we should just read and believe whatever Collins, or Keeneland says about the track they are selling and making millions on
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I like Poly and I like dirt and I LOVE turf. I think after Arlington puts in their surface that there should not be anymore synthetic surfaces. Also, breakdowns are still way way down. I think there was like 24 at Turfway between 04 and 05. I think there has been like 7 between 05-06. To me, that is pretty good. The creator of Poly has never said the surface is maintenance free and that it will prevent breakdowns. That is all I am saying. I guess I am pissed cause the Colts got CRUSHED today.
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Bengals are white hot right now, they could be this years version of Pittsburgh(of course Pittsburgh didn't have all the arrests but you get the point). |
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I should invent a paper mache surface bound together by miniture chainlinks and jello, sell it as an alternative surface to polytrack. If I could sit down with Rogers Beasley and tell him he could make a few million selling it I bet Keeneland would be trying to install it somewhere by the end of the week.
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Ron Ellis has had a poor meet at HWD (so far.)I think he has won only 1 race(if I am wrong,please correct me.) The 1st thing he did(when he came on to talk on TVG) is compliment the track.He said the training track was muddy,but the main track was great(after almost a half inch of overnite rain.)Sure,he would like to have won 4 or 5 races this meet,but this trainer is a guy who really does indeed put the horses 1st.Obviously,he thinks this track is the best thing for his horses(whether they have been winning on it,or not.)
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Not much money in dirt you know? Thats my point Richi, How come for years noone at these tracks "cared about" the horse welfare and just didn't spend 1/4 the cost of the poly on a new safe dirt surface? My suspicions stem from the fact that as soon as there was a whole lotta cash in it, people all of sudden cared so much. How come keeneland never put in a new dirt surface for YEARS to replace the surface that was very criticized? All of a sudden they cared? And it had nothing to do with money? I'm willing to bet that a lotta folks get some nice stocking stuffers this year. |
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Where is Ron Ellis stabled?
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