OFFICIAL: '09 Cup Back to Santa Anita

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Scav

You are right, it is retarded.

Why is it that this industry can not do anything to MAKE PEOPLE HAPPY and just do things that piss people off, some of the list

1) Same BC Site
2) Past posting/outdated mutual systems
3) Same saddle cloths on day where they are 40 horses in one race
4) ADW fiasco
5) Takeout fiasco
6) Drugs fiasco
7) Not making safe tracks to begin with and then going synethic on a whim

Feel free to add any more to this list

I swear that if people in positions of power in any sport actively attempted to destroy that sport, they could hardly do a better job than the people in this sport have done by accident.

[ateamstupid]

Looks like I'll be passing on the next TWO Cups.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

If they want to have it in these other places(other than SOCAL,)then they should change the date to atleast a month earlier.You should atleast make an attempt to avoid the bad weather.LONE STAR,CHURCHILL,and MONMOUTH all involved weather.

[31lengths]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Looks like I'll be passing on the next TWO Cups.

J -

Love the avatar.

[King Glorious]

I'll bet that everyone that says they won't watch or wager on the BC at Santa Anita........will.

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Santa Anita to host Breeders' Cup again in 2009

Santa Anita will be the home of the Breeders' Cup World Championships for the next two years, following a decision by Breeders' Cup Ltd. to award the 2009 edition to the Oak Tree Racing Association.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I'll bet that everyone that says they won't watch or wager on the BC at Santa Anita........will.

Nah, I'll watch, but I won't be wagering. I haven't bet on a race at a So. California track since summer '06, and I don't plan to anytime soon.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Nah, I'll watch, but I won't be wagering. I haven't bet on a race at a So. California track since summer '06, and I don't plan to anytime soon.

Not even on the offspring of SINGLECHERRY?

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Not even on the offspring of SINGLECHERRY?

Are you knocking my boy? Because Singletary was a fighter who finally got his just reward in the Lone Star BC. Just because he didn't come with a fancy pedigree, some East Coasters had to knock him but he was a heck of a better horse than some of the Storm Cat flashes-in-the-pan out there.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Nah, I'll watch, but I won't be wagering. I haven't bet on a race at a So. California track since summer '06, and I don't plan to anytime soon.

it was delmar i believe...

[KY_Sasquash]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

The BC was held at SA in 1986, 1993, and 2003.

The winners of the Turf have been:
1986-Manila
1993-Kotashaan
2003-High Chaparral

The winners of the Mile have been:
1986-Last Tycoon
1993-Lure
2003-Six Perfections

The lone winner of the F/M Turf was:
2003-Islington

Of that group, all of those horses were proven as not only grade one level horses but also as grade one winners. Of the seven, four were European based horses. Of the 21 horses to finish in the top three in the races, eight were European based horses and several more were transplanted Europeans. I can't see a single horse on this list that was not a legit winner and with Euro's holding a 4-3 edge in winners, I don't see how anyone can say it's unfair to them.

I stand corrected. Must be in my head. I really don't feel that their turf courses play like a true turf course as previously stated.

How could you leave my man Johar off that list though?

[KY_Sasquash]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

Are you knocking my boy? Because Singletary was a fighter who finally got his just reward in the Lone Star BC. Just because he didn't come with a fancy pedigree, some East Coasters had to knock him but he was a heck of a better horse than some of the Storm Cat flashes-in-the-pan out there.

His win was severely aided by Jamie Spencer's horrendous ride on Antonius Pius. Any other jock on Antonius Pius' back and he wins the mile. Hardly a just reward. No matter to me, i got lucky and cashed on him, but he shouldve been 2nd.

[slotdirt]

I have no plans to bet or attend either the 08 or 09 Breeders Cups...strictly because they're at Santa Anita.

[TitanSooner]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

I have no plans to bet or attend either the 08 or 09 Breeders Cups...strictly because they're at Santa Anita.

that ought to make them think twice about their decision

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I'll bet that everyone that says they won't watch or wager on the BC at Santa Anita........will.

Technically you are probably right but I can guarantee you that my handle will be less than 50% of what it usually is on BC Day and much less than my average handle on any racing day. Now, I don't really bet more on the average BC day, but now I will bet even less.

[2Hot4TV]

The Breeders Cup deservers to be showcased in at a facility that is equal to it's standards and Santa Anita is just that. There are only about 6 tracks in the US that can handle the Breeders Cup without major investments and the races should be rotated between those tracks and change the dates if weather is a major concern. I for one will be at Santa Anita in 2008/2009 and well enjoy every minute.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Technically you are probably right but I can guarantee you that my handle will be less than 50% of what it usually is on BC Day and much less than my average handle on any racing day. Now, I don't really bet more on the average BC day, but now I will bet even less.

That surprised me given the value that is often present on horses with a shot at double digit odds.

Am I mistaken? I thought BC was generally a good betting day

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by GBBob

That surprised me given the value that is often present on horses with a shot at double digit odds.

Am I mistaken? I thought BC was generally a good betting day

BE A GOOD BETTING DAY IF THE TRACK WASN'T MESSED UP BY WEATHER(lately been too often the case.)I understand the notion that good horses should be able to handle it,but I'd rather not have weather be involved each time.Even the Belmont one had a questionable turf course.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

Are you knocking my boy? Because Singletary was a fighter who finally got his just reward in the Lone Star BC. Just because he didn't come with a fancy pedigree, some East Coasters had to knock him but he was a heck of a better horse than some of the Storm Cat flashes-in-the-pan out there.

Well,if you admit to running a horse who is fat,then you're gunna pay the price with people for a very long time.He should never have said that.He deserved the hell he caught,and I doubt he says it again.As for his big win,this is why it would be better to have less weather involved.There were horses who ran horrible on that turf,and came right back to win stakes on other turf courses.Neither of the 2 male Turf Lonestar B.C. winners could do anything the next year at Belmont.

[blackthroatedwind]

Steve Crist lambastes them in his Sunday column.

It's a subscription article but I'll see if it's OK to reprint it here.