Top 25 3yo's 1987-2007 - Page 3

Cajungator26 · #41 02-25-2008, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2

Cajun,
I am not one of Smarty's biggest fans....but not even in the top 25?
I would certainly take him over Summer Squall.

I will get blasted from here to high kingdom if I post how I felt about Smarty (but here you go anyway)... sure, he was a nice horse, but IMO that crop left a lot to be desired. His 2nd place finish in the Belmont was one of the most hard trying races I've ever seen a colt put himself through, but other than that, I just have a hard time including him.

Cajungator26 · #42 02-25-2008, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2

Oh wait....never mind Smarty.....I just noticed that you don't have Risen Star on your list.
He is a must as far as I am concerned.

Forgot him to be honest.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #43 02-25-2008, 09:35 PM

funny cide,sea hero ,pleasent tap ,freehouse,captain bodget

Cajungator26 · #44 02-25-2008, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

funny cide,sea hero ,pleasent tap ,freehouse,captain bodget

You crack me up.

miraja2 · #45 02-25-2008, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I will get blasted from here to high kingdom if I post how I felt about Smarty (but here you go anyway)... sure, he was a nice horse, but IMO that crop left a lot to be desired. His 2nd place finish in the Belmont was one of the most hard trying races I've ever seen a colt put himself through, but other than that, I just have a hard time including him.

You won't get blasted by me about Smarty Jones.
He wouldn't be in my top ten, but I am a little shocked to not see him in a top 25.
Truth be told, I thought about including Birdstone in my list but he was a last minute cut. I think he is one of the most underappreciated horses of the last decade. People act like his win that day was a complete fluke when really, on a dry track going 10f or beyond, he was a pretty good colt.

But, let's not turn this thread into yet another one about that race.

RolloTomasi · #46 02-25-2008, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

Many people don't remember Dinard but he was better than Best Pal. He had beaten Best Pal in the San Rafael and the SA Derby and would have been the favorite for the 1991 Kentucky Derby but an injury took him out. Best Pal ended up a very close second that year. He also beat Olympio in that SA Derby and Olympio won the Arkansas Derby and the Malibu that year.

Dinard didn't beat Olympio in the Santa Anita Derby, cuz Olympio wasn't in that race. Dinard did beat Olympio as a 3yo by a mere nose in the since defunct Los Feliz, a restricted one mile stakes run early in the SA winter meet.

Dinard bested an off the bench Best Pal twice leading up to the Derby (in two slowly rated races), but his season was cut short by injury. He returned the following winter at SA to get lit up by Olympio in the Malibu (by 9 lengths or so) and followed that up with a drubbing at the hands of Best Pal (in career form at the time) in the Strub Stakes.

Both Dinard and Olympio never ran again after the Strub. Best Pal ran for about 10 more years.

AeWingnut · #47 02-25-2008, 10:22 PM

Saarland

Cajungator26 · #48 02-25-2008, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut

Saarland

This is funny.

#49 02-25-2008, 11:20 PM

This is very tricky because we must weigh TC races heavily, but after that how much weight. Obviously the BC... beating older horses... and then are we counting sprinters. So I stuck with the longer horses. And then the tough part about one or two great races and no more but good progeny, it all gets in the way. The order at the top I like, but after that move em around.

Spectacular Bid
Point Given
Affirmed
Sunday Silence
Skip Away
Tiznow
Smarty Jones
Alysheba
Real Quiet
Silver Charm
Thunder Gulch
Easy Goer
Unbridled
AP Indy
Alydar
Holy Bull
Curlin
Funny Cide
Hansel
Afleet Alex

pound away...

Cajungator26 · #50 02-25-2008, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn

This is very tricky because we must weigh TC races heavily, but after that how much weight. Obviously the BC... beating older horses... and then are we counting sprinters. So I stuck with the longer horses. The order at the top I like, but after that move em around.

Spectacular Bid
Point Given
Affirmed
Sunday Silence
Skip Away
Tiznow
Smarty Jones
Alysheba
Real Quiet
Silver Charm
Thunder Gulch
Easy Goer
Unbridled
AP Indy
Alydar
Holy Bull
Curlin
Funny Cide
Hansel
Afleet Alex

pound away...

Past 20 years, Pgardn.

kentuckyrosesinmay · #51 02-25-2008, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn

This is very tricky because we must weigh TC races heavily, but after that how much weight. Obviously the BC... beating older horses... and then are we counting sprinters. So I stuck with the longer horses. And then the tough part about one or two great races and no more but good progeny, it all gets in the way. The order at the top I like, but after that move em around.

Spectacular Bid
Point Given
Affirmed
Sunday Silence
Skip Away
Tiznow
Smarty Jones
Alysheba
Real Quiet
Silver Charm
Thunder Gulch
Easy Goer
Unbridled
AP Indy
Alydar
Holy Bull
Curlin
Funny Cide
Hansel
Afleet Alex

pound away...

The Bid would have been at the top of my list all all time greats. Love that horse!

Cannon Shell · #52 02-25-2008, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn

This is very tricky because we must weigh TC races heavily, but after that how much weight. Obviously the BC... beating older horses... and then are we counting sprinters. So I stuck with the longer horses. And then the tough part about one or two great races and no more but good progeny, it all gets in the way. The order at the top I like, but after that move em around.

Spectacular Bid
Point Given
Affirmed
Sunday Silence
Skip Away
Tiznow
Smarty Jones
Alysheba
Real Quiet
Silver Charm
Thunder Gulch
Easy Goer
Unbridled
AP Indy
Alydar
Holy Bull
Curlin
Funny Cide
Hansel
Afleet Alex

pound away...

You forgot Citation and Man O War

#53 02-25-2008, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Past 20 years, Pgardn.

Ok so I went 30...

OOps.

Excuse me for being old... and unable to read.

Cajungator26 · #54 02-25-2008, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn

Ok so I went 30...

OOps.

Excuse me for being old... and unable to read.

LMFAO

I probably would have spent all night adding horses if it were the past 30 years.

#55 02-25-2008, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You forgot Citation and Man O War

So I like the year 1977 -2007. Got into this in the 70's.

But for God's sake I was not around for WWI thanks alot.

#56 02-25-2008, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

LMFAO

I probably would have spent all night adding horses if it were the past 30 years.

Have you been alive for 30 years...?
The 70's were loaded. So I just happened upon 1977...
If earlier I would have been in real trouble.
What time is it?

Cajungator26 · #57 02-25-2008, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn

Have you been alive for 30 years...?

Not quite. Easy Goer was the horse who got me into racing (I was almost 9.) Still, I didn't have to see The Bid in person to know that he was a great horse... thank heavens for video.

#58 02-25-2008, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Not quite. Easy Goer was the horse who got me into racing (I was almost 9.) Still, I didn't have to see The Bid in person to know that he was a great horse... thank heavens for video.

Put that video down and just watch Secretariat.
You dont need to see anymore than that.
That is the only good thing about being as old as I am.

Cannon Shell · #59 02-25-2008, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Not quite. Easy Goer was the horse who got me into racing (I was almost 9.) Still, I didn't have to see The Bid in person to know that he was a great horse... thank heavens for video.

That depresses me.

Cajungator26 · #60 02-25-2008, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

That depresses me.

I'm knocking on 30s' door... that depresses ME.