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Old 04-10-2023, 11:42 PM
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The point is none have improved which is not typical for Baffert stock
I don’t know why any improvement should be automatically expected.
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Old 04-11-2023, 07:07 AM
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I don’t know why any improvement should be automatically expected.
I know you have watched the TC for the last three decades, so I know you have watched Bafferts colts improve. So I believe you understand the point. If you want to be rational or not, is up to you
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Old 04-11-2023, 06:21 PM
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I know you have watched the TC for the last three decades, so I know you have watched Bafferts colts improve. So I believe you understand the point. If you want to be rational or not, is up to you
I have seen them improve. With Baffert continuing to train them. From what I’m reading, it seems that the expectation is that even though they have moved to a “lesser” trainer, they should improve just like his others have improved over the years. What I’m saying is that if the expectation is that Yakteen should improve them the same way Baffert does, there’s really no reason to send horses to Baffert. I don’t agree with that. Baffert has questionable methods and even that might be an understatement. But he’s still good at what he does and I don’t think it’s realistic to expect another trainer to just step in and do just as good a job.
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Old 04-12-2023, 12:09 PM
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I have discussed Forte not running back to his BC pretty extensively.

The vast majority of discussion around the Derby isn't particularly informed and is biased by people's preconceptions.
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