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Old 02-11-2013, 04:09 PM
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Speaking of the Derby, let's get this started!

And we'll start with the obvious one - the Derby favourite herself, the one and only...


HABIBI

3 f Ekraar - Danny Holiday
Breeder: H J & P J Crofskey
Owner: G P, H J & P J Crofskey and P A McIntyre
Trainer: Donna & Dean Logan
Jockey: Vinnie Colgan

5 starts
5 wins
0 seconds
0 thirds

Major races:
1st Championship Stakes G2
1st Great Northern Guineas G2

Best replay to watch:
Championship Stakes, Ellerslie, 1 January
http://www.nzracing.co.nz/RaceInfo/4...ce-Detail.aspx


Derby odds: 3.50 (favourite)

+ Undefeated in five
+ Winning so easily
+ Seems to be getting better with every race

- The horses she's beaten haven't done great since. Championship Stakes runner-up Addictive Habit only managed a battling sixth in the Waikato Guineas earlier this month
- The fact that she's never had a challenge could actually be a problem if she has one for the first time in the Derby! How will she handle having a horse stay with her?


Of course she has to be the favourite at the moment. She's been flawless, and she's been on another level to her opposition so far. But in the last couple of weeks some better horses than the ones she's been beating have broken out. Can she beat them too? There's no reason to think she can't, but there's really only one way to find out!
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Old 02-12-2013, 02:05 PM
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YEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!

So happy it's that time of the year and thank you for doing this once again! I mean it.

Good luck to Pinzaara!
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Old 02-12-2013, 04:46 PM
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CASTLZEBERG

3 g Castledale - Stylish Cent
Breeder: Te Runga Stud
Owner: Te Runga Stud (W Larsen) & R Vance
Trainer: Jenny & Bob Vance
Jockey: Danielle Johnson

5 starts
2 wins
3 seconds
0 thirds

Major races:
1st Waikato Guineas G2

Best replay to watch:
Waikato Guineas, Te Rapa, 2 February
http://www.nzracing.co.nz/RaceInfo/4...ce-Detail.aspx

Derby odds: 5.00 (2nd fav)

+ Definitely improving with every race - a six-length maiden win at his fourth start; all-the-way Guineas romp at his fifth
+ Beat the strongest field assembled on the Derby trail so far at Waikato

- He was a maiden two starts ago, and he took four starts to get out of that grade. Have these two freak performances been a flash in the pan, or is he the real deal?
- His bold front-running style isn't usually conducive to winning the gruelling mile-and-a-half NZ Derby.

Castlzeberg has come from nowhere to be one of the leading chances. It's been a whirlwind rise, and it's still just a little hard to be sure that it's legitimate. We'll find out for sure this Sunday, when he lines up against the mighty Habibi in the Avondale Guineas.
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Old 02-13-2013, 04:49 AM
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Once again, SO proud of Pinzaara.
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Old 02-13-2013, 09:27 AM
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Oh ed! I just watched it.... what a fantastic run!!!! Soooo close.

Congratulations.

It's like the Pinzaara / Pus$y O'Reilly show.

Thrilled for you and sorry you couldn't have been there.

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Old 02-13-2013, 06:36 PM
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WEISSMULLER

3 g Handsome Ransom - Belongs In Lights
Breeder: T Heptinstall & T Pivac
Owner: T Heptinstall, T Pivac, D Platt, Hivon Syndicate, Sold Out Syndicate & M Cummings
Trainer: John Kiernan
Jockey: Johnathon Parkes

4 starts
2 wins
0 seconds
0 thirds

Major races:
1st Wellington Stakes G3

Best replay to watch:
Wellington Stakes, Trentham, 19 January
http://www.nzracing.co.nz/RaceInfo/4...ce-Detail.aspx

Derby odds: 8.00 (3rd fav)

+ His two wins have been absolutely breathtaking performances
+ His two unplaced performances have been in races where the tempo didn't really suit his style - the Derby is more likely to be suitable
+ Full-brother to Travolta, 5th in the Derby last year, and connections believe he's better

- Even if the races weren't run to suit, he finished further back than you'd like to see in those other two races. If he'd run a similar race to the ones he produced in his wins, there's no way he'd have finished so far back in those other two. So there's a real element of inconsistency in his performance.
- He's never raced the Ellerslie way around before.

The real enigma of the Derby trail this year. Is the dominant Wellington Stakes winner the real Weissmuller, or is the distantly beaten effort in the Waikato Guineas a more accurate reflection of his true ability? It's really too soon to say. But if he's as good as he looked at Wellington, he's going to be a huge chance in the Derby.
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Old 02-14-2013, 10:14 AM
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Opie has the Castlzeberg mount on Sunday? Did something happen to Danielle Johnson or is it just cause he's, well... Opie?!

NICE field. It'll be interesting to see who ends up in 2nd and 3rd.

I'm assuming you're going... if so please blow a kiss to Shuka. I know Silent Achiever wins this but he has such heart (.... and since he'll be right behind her...).
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Old 02-14-2013, 04:30 PM
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Yep, I'll be there! Can't wait. I'm not totally sure about Silent Achiever, actually, although I really want her to win. It's a sprint distance, her first start since November, and she's carrying a massive 61kg against a nice field. It's not going to be easy!

They've just decided to give Opie the mount for this race and the Derby. I can't blame them, I guess, but I feel sorry for Danielle. She rode the horse perfectly in the Guineas.
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Old 02-14-2013, 05:11 PM
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ZINKO

3 g Shinko King - Tio Zinnia
Breeder: H W Perry & T W Archer Trust
Owner: M L O Williams, D Biddlecombe, I J Gray, D Jenkins & R Lawgun
Trainer: Moira Murdoch & Dominic Olson
Jockey: Leith Innes

6 starts
1 win
3 seconds
1 third

Major races:
2nd Waikato Guineas G2
2nd Wellington Guineas G2

Best replay to watch:
Waikato Guineas, Te Rapa, 2 February (2nd)
http://www.nzracing.co.nz/RaceInfo/4...ce-Detail.aspx

Derby odds: 10.00 (5th fav)

+ He's never run a bad race, no matter what grade. He's always right there at the finish.
+ Pedigree suggests the Derby distance should be totally fine.

- He just never seems to win! His only win was a maiden back in early September.

Running great races in stakes level from September all the way through to February, Zinko has been one of the more admirably consistent 3-year-olds throughout the season. There's no reason why he won't continue that and run another huge race in the Derby. But his inability to win these big races so far makes it hard to see him score a breakthrough win in the Derby. It's going to be a tough ask. But a solid placing is not beyond him at all.

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Old 02-14-2013, 05:28 PM
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Oh I like him. Hope he does well!
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Old 02-17-2013, 04:24 AM
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Valbuena! At 35-1! Oh wow. I've always liked him, but really didn't expect that.

Good performances just behind him by Castlzeberg, Habibi, Choice Bro and Zinko.
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Old 02-17-2013, 12:24 PM
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That was insane the way he just had another gear!

Great race, thrilling run by the winner! Castlaeberg? What a tough horse!!!

What the announcer said about Habibi finishing "probably closer than what she was entitled to on the home turn... she was a looong way back"... nice thing to say cause it's so true, love watching Choice Bro with that big blaze and Zinko I just love for no reason at all.

Haven't watched any other replays yet but was happy to see Danielle had a win.

What's next (... oh and any news on plans for Veyron by the way? Haven't seen a thing)?

Thanks in advance and wow, how much fun was that being there in person??!!

Lucky!
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Old 02-18-2013, 03:03 AM
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It was amazing! Really great experience. And NICE resuming run by Silent Achiever. She ran the fastest last 600m of the day.

Veyron is running next week in a G1 at Otaki... a race also featuring Ocean Park and Final Touch.
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Old 02-18-2013, 03:11 AM
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No prizes for guessing who we look at next...

VALBUENA

3 g Darci Brahma - Vega Sicilia (G1-placed mare)
Breeder: Pencarrow Stud (P & P Vela)
Owner: Pencarrow Stud (P & P Vela)
Trainer: Bruce Wallace
Jockey: James McDonald?

6 starts
2 wins
0 seconds
0 thirds

Major races:
1st Avondale Guineas G2
Late-finishing 5th Wellington Stakes G3
Late-finishing 6th Great Northern Guineas G2

Best replay to watch:
Avondale Guineas, Ellerslie, 17 February
http://www.nzracing.co.nz/RaceInfo/4...ce-Detail.aspx

Derby odds: 6.00 (equal 2nd fav)

+ Sensational win in the Avondale Guineas yesterday
+ Pedigree suggests strong stamina, and that's backed up by that performance yesterday in his first attempt around two turns

- Fluke? Can he possibly do this again in the Derby?

This beautifully bred gelding has caught the eye with several of his performances - a big maiden win at Hastings in October and some strong late bids over unsuitably short distances since - and he's always looked like a good horse in the making. But no one could have expected him to do it so soon. At 35-1 and against the best field assembled so far on the Derby trail, Valbuena produced an explosive breakout performance to dent some big reputations and create one of his own. But can he do it twice in a row? Or is this Derby still going to come too soon for a horse who maybe still isn't quite the finished product?
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:21 PM
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It was amazing! Really great experience. And NICE resuming run by Silent Achiever. She ran the fastest last 600m of the day.

Veyron is running next week in a G1 at Otaki... a race also featuring Ocean Park and Final Touch.
Thanks and wow some race that will be!

Good for SA.

Off topic but live Muse concert going on right now, didn't start too long ago, in the event you're on.

http://www.youtube.com/user/LoveLiveTV?v=arxSonpkAtQ

edit - Lest I forget, congrats to MDP, Mr. 500!
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:42 PM
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Wow, cool! I missed that, but I'll find a video. Sounds like they played some great songs - Dead Star for the first time in 3 years!
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CHOICE BRO

3 c Choisir - Ladidi
Breeder: R Pietrykowski
Owner: G Wright, K Jones, R Edwards, G Burgess, L Topic & S Saric
Trainer: John Sargent
Jockey: Jonathan Riddell

12 starts
5 wins
1 second
1 third

Major races:
1st Sires' Produce Stakes G1 (2yo)
1st Karaka Mile
4th Avondale Guineas G2

Best replay to watch:
His spectacular win resuming after a seven-month lay-off, Awapuni, 12 January
http://www.nzracing.co.nz/RaceInfo/4...ce-Detail.aspx

Derby odds: 10.00 (5th fav)

+ Proven class - the only G1 winner in the field
+ In superb form, with two amazing wins in his first two starts this prep, then a solid and close fourth in the Avondale Guineas
+ Powerful-looking colt who physically looks suited to the distance.

- His pedigree screams sprinter, miler at best.
- No horse has won the G1 Sires at 2 and the Derby at 3 since Satisfy in 1987.

One of the best 2yos last season, it's been great to see Choice Bro come back in such great form so far this summer. But there remains a huge question over his ability to run the 2400m of the Derby. That's likely to be the deciding factor in whether he's in contention as the field roars down the home stretch.

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Old 02-19-2013, 09:14 PM
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Pinzaara to run on the Derby day undercard!
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Old 02-20-2013, 05:17 AM
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FIX

3 f Iffraaj - Destined
Breeder: Frantic Bloodstock & Haunui Farm
Owner: G E Harding
Trainer: Ken & Bev Kelso
Jockey: Mark du Plessis

10 starts
6 wins
0 seconds
2 thirds

Major races:
1st Eight Carat Classic G2
1st Royal Stakes G2
1st Sir Tristram Fillies' Classic G2

Best replay to watch:
Sir Tristram Fillies' Classic, Te Rapa, 9 February
http://www.nzracing.co.nz/RaceInfo/4...ce-Detail.aspx

Derby odds: 6.00 (equal 2nd fav)

+ She's looked amazing winning three G2s in a row.
+ Has loads of courage and determination - tough battles down the stretch seem to bring out the very best in her.
+ Undefeated in three starts at Ellerslie - two at G2 level.

- Although Silent Achiever did it last year, fillies don't have a great winning record in the Derby in recent years.
- She's yet to race against the boys in stakes company.
- Slight doubt over her stamina.
- Rider Vinnie Colgan chose Habibi

The Derby was never really considered as an option for Fix until recently - she wasn't even nominated, and now her connections have to pay a more than $20,000 late-entry fee. But her entry adds a ton of interest to the race, as she brings into it a fantastic string of wins in some of NZ's strongest 3-year-old-filly races. She's been outstanding, and she has earned her chance in the big one. If she can run out a strong 2400m, she's going to be hard to beat - she's proven she's an ultra-competitive filly with a huge amount of ability.
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Old 02-20-2013, 01:55 PM
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Pinzaara to run on the Derby day undercard!
Fantastic!!!!!

Good luck, ed!!!

Thanks again for all your hard work. At this (early) point if one horse were to upset would you have one you'd want it to be?

I think as of right now mine is Zinko. Cannot see him beating a few of the probables BUT right at this moment? It's a fun thought!
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