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Old 09-03-2012, 11:27 AM
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Bums for Monday:

Albuquerque Race #1: Iron Axe

Albuquerque Race #6: House of Dollies and Ragged Descent

Albuquerque Race #10: Hoop N Hollar

Arlington Park Race #7: Pushin Up Daisy and Saint Patty Ann

Canterbury Race #6: Gloriousdemmi

Canterbury Race #10: Emperor's Choice

Columbus Race #1: Abby Ring

Calder Race #9: Adama

Del Mar Race #2: Truly a Mist

Del Mar Race #10: Paralyzing Eyes

Ellis Park Race #3: Short North

Emerald Downs Race #1: Doctor Pav

Emerald Downs Race #4: Orcas Gold

Fairmount Park Race #5: Posh B. Wild

Fairmount Park Race #7: Dontflateryourself

Golden Gate Race #2: Finest Angel

Hastings Race #1: Bueno's Legacy

Louisiana Downs Race #9: Jace Jacob

Mountaineer Race #2: Erika's Buddy

Mountaineer Race #3: Enjoyable Journey

Mountaineer Race #4: Cloudy Vision

Monmouth Race #10: Festa Time

Portland Meadows Race #5: Laurasmadagain

Portland Meadows Race #8: A. J.'s Lil Amigo

Parx Race #1: Quiet Liveing

Parx Race #4: Double Dutch Bus

Parx Race #10: Runnin Bull

River Downs Race #9: Navajo Park

Remington Park Race #1: Road Rage G and Lucky Doobeh

Remington Park Race #2: Ruby Pauline

Saratoga Race #2: Lake Nona

Saratoga Race #10: Sandyinthesun

Suffolk Race #1: Double Your Dollar

Thistle Downs Race #5: B Moore Bentley

Thistle Downs Race #7: Catonine

Timonioum Race #6: Catrippi

Timonioum Race #7: Askmethequestions

Woodbine Race #1: Gobi Gold

Woodbine Race #4: Its Jerry

Woodbine Race #5: Johnny Neutrino
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Old 09-03-2012, 07:24 PM
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Bums for Monday:

Albuquerque Race #1: Iron Axe
SCR (Race #2)

Albuquerque Race #6: House of Dollies and Ragged Descent
Last and Next to last

Albuquerque Race #10: Hoop N Hollar
Last

Arlington Park Race #7: Pushin Up Daisy and Saint Patty Ann
Next to last and last

Canterbury Race #6: Gloriousdemmi
6th

Canterbury Race #10: Emperor's Choice
Last

Columbus Race #1: Abby Ring
5th

Calder Race #9: Adama
SCR

Del Mar Race #2: Truly a Mist
4th

Del Mar Race #10: Paralyzing Eyes


Ellis Park Race #3: Short North
Last

Emerald Downs Race #1: Doctor Pav
4th

Emerald Downs Race #4: Orcas Gold
5th

Fairmount Park Race #5: Posh B. Wild
Last

Fairmount Park Race #7: Dontflateryourself
6th

Golden Gate Race #2: Finest Angel
Last (6th Race)

Hastings Race #1: Bueno's Legacy
6th

Louisiana Downs Race #9: Jace Jacob
10th

Mountaineer Race #2: Erika's Buddy
Last

Mountaineer Race #3: Enjoyable Journey
SCR

Mountaineer Race #4: Cloudy Vision
SCR

Monmouth Race #10: Festa Time
Last

Portland Meadows Race #5: Laurasmadagain
Last

Portland Meadows Race #8: A. J.'s Lil Amigo
Scr

Parx Race #1: Quiet Liveing
6th

Parx Race #4: Double Dutch Bus
8th

Parx Race #10: Runnin Bull
Last

River Downs Race #9: Navajo Park
Last

Remington Park Race #1: Road Rage G and Lucky Doobeh
Last and next to last

Remington Park Race #2: Ruby Pauline
Last

Saratoga Race #2: Lake Nona
7th

Saratoga Race #10: Sandyinthesun
8th

Suffolk Race #1: Double Your Dollar
2nd beaten 2 lengths, 56 to 1

Thistle Downs Race #5: B Moore Bentley
5th

Thistle Downs Race #7: Catonine
5th

Timonioum Race #6: Catrippi
Last

Timonioum Race #7: Askmethequestions
5th

Woodbine Race #1: Gobi Gold
6th

Woodbine Race #4: Its Jerry
Last

Woodbine Race #5: Johnny Neutrino
8th
Only the 10th at Dmr is left. For the rest of the day, 0 for 37 with one 2nd, a relatively close call.
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Old 09-03-2012, 10:28 PM
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Only the 10th at Dmr is left. For the rest of the day, 0 for 37 with one 2nd, a relatively close call.
Horse in the 10th race at Del Mar finished a distant 11th.

As for the bum who gave the scare at Suffolk -- he got a textbook perfect trip. He was a clear 3rd early off of two breakaway speed duelers in a short field.




A lot of the greatest upsets in history happened with similar scenarios.

I did a thread about it a few years ago -- and here are some of the pictures I posted in the old thread:

* Jim Dandy won the Travers by 8 lengths at "100/1" in a 4-horse field... one bookmaker who offered 500/1 against him at Saratoga tried to jump a fence and runaway and escape after he won.




* Dare And Go stalks a 3-way pace battle between three wildly superior horses from a clear 4th...he blows Cigar and Siphon away in the stretch.



* This wasn't a famous upset -- but Malibu Moonshine paid $31.60 and won by an easy 5 lengths in a 4-horse field.




390 down, only 610 more to go.
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Old 09-03-2012, 10:34 PM
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A few others from the thread:

* The impressiveness of this win by El Gato Malo was historically huge. David Flores was the jockey of both El Gato Malo and Zenyatta ...






After this impressive win, Flores took off of undefeated Zenyatta to ride El Gato Malo on the same day in the Santa Anita Derby.

El Gato Malo finished 5th as the favorite in the SA Derby -- and Flores never got to ride his mount Zenyatta again.
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Old 09-04-2012, 11:12 AM
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Yesterday the bums managed to run away with another $30,613 to bring the grand total up to a very healthy $419,711.

I had a rare chance to make it to the local OTB yesterday and I was reading through the form trying to guess potential bums, and I was surprised you didn't use Big Rock Candi in the 10th at Golden Gate, seeing how he had two lifetime starts where he failed to complete the course either time, very slow works, and low percentage connections. He wound up 4th (placed 3rd by DQ) after being described as "tailed off" on the far turn during the race call.
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Old 09-04-2012, 11:26 AM
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Bums for Tuesday:

Evangeline Downs Race #1: Chelsea Diablo

Evangeline Race #3: Another Grand Day

Fort Erie Race #1: Northern Miners

Fort Erie Race #8: O'delle

Finger Lakes Race #3: Cathy All the Way

Finger Lakes Race #6: Cup of Cee

Hoosier Race #1: Jabbawokee and Goodxroll

Hoosier Race #2: Drinkability

Mountaineer Race #5: Lies and Affairs

Presque Isle Downs Race #6: Tribute to a Star

Parx Race #3: Val's Honor

Parx Race #10: Sherrill's Hero

Suffolk Race #3: Flying Son

Suffolk Race #6: Uncle Mordecai

Suffolk Race #8: Code Taker
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Old 09-04-2012, 11:37 AM
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Yesterday the bums managed to run away with another $30,613 to bring the grand total up to a very healthy $419,711.

I had a rare chance to make it to the local OTB yesterday and I was reading through the form trying to guess potential bums, and I was surprised you didn't use Big Rock Candi in the 10th at Golden Gate, seeing how he had two lifetime starts where he failed to complete the course either time, very slow works, and low percentage connections. He wound up 4th (placed 3rd by DQ) after being described as "tailed off" on the far turn during the race call.
I missed him. He had two X's on CJ's figures so I didn't look closer at him and blew past the race.

Pretty crazy that the horse started his career off with back-to-back DNF's. Even crazier that it only paid #12.60 to show. Talk about terrible value.
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Old 09-05-2012, 01:21 AM
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Tuesday's bums were responsible for losing $4,881 which brings the total lost so far to $424,592.
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Old 09-05-2012, 09:23 AM
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405 down, only 595 more to go.
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Old 09-05-2012, 11:01 AM
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Bums for Today:

Del Mar Race #1: Nisus

Evangeline Race #3: Big W's La Tee and Bigolecountryboy

Evangline Race #9: Cajun Raindance

Evangline Race #11: Blessed Easter

Hoosier Race #1: Cinco Estrella

Hoosier Race #3: Upthemiddle

Hoosier Race #4: Still in Front

Laurel Race #7: Outfox and Marq Your Bible

Laurel Race #9: Victoria Gallops

Penn National Race #3: Runfast

Presque Isle Downs Race #8: Handle Gently

Portland Meadows Race #6: Cougar Bob

Suffolk Race #2: Sick Puppy

Thistle Downs Race #3: Z Piggy Bank
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Old 09-05-2012, 10:53 PM
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14 of the bums ran today, and they all got thrashed, all finshing 5th or worse, and the two that were 5th were in 6 horse fields. They were responsible for $5,943 in failed win bets, bringing the grand total so far to $430,535.

Today also saw a record for the longest priced bum, as Outfox in the 7th at Laurel went off at 209-1. He led for the first half mile before he gave way readily and finished 13th beaten about 53 lengths.
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Old 09-06-2012, 06:00 AM
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419 down, only 581 more to go.
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Old 09-06-2012, 06:01 AM
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Unfortunately many of the bums are also becoming a list of horses that should be retired.
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Old 09-06-2012, 06:43 AM
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Bums for Today:

Arlington Race 1: Silver Sunrise

Arlington Race 7: Coyote Breeze

Calder Race 3: Straightsuccess

Finger Lakes Race 1: Great Privilege

Finger Lakes Race 7: Missed the Notes

Hoosier Race #4: Gijon

Hoosier Race #8: Big Rabbit

Louisiana Downs Race #9: St Southern Belle

Laurel Race #6: Joel's Touch

Penn National Race #5: Sea's Sweet Billie

Remington Park Race #5: A Toast to Shadow

Turfway Race #6: Rocio Storm
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Old 09-06-2012, 07:32 AM
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Unfortunately many of the bums are also becoming a list of horses that should be retired.
In more cases -- I think the trainers of these horses should either be retired or sent to horse placement school.

Most of these horses can win if placed in the right spots -- there are a lot of clueless trainers out there.
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Old 09-06-2012, 11:04 AM
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In more cases -- I think the trainers of these horses should either be retired or sent to horse placement school.

Most of these horses can win if placed in the right spots -- there are a lot of clueless trainers out there.
Its not just the trainers. Owners too.

I don't think alot of owners understand the huge difference between say a 25nw2 race at Saratoga to that same race at Parx or Laurel.

Hell, you can see a huge difference in those exact races between Parx and Penn National.
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Old 09-06-2012, 07:50 PM
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In more cases -- I think the trainers of these horses should either be retired or sent to horse placement school.

Most of these horses can win if placed in the right spots -- there are a lot of clueless trainers out there.
Real good example on Sunday at Arlington. Look at 1st race and 9th race.

Jimmy Gulick, who is a great guy and fun to talk to, enters Holy Rosie in an OPEN MSW off her 19 Beyer. On the same card there is an IL bred MSW going 1/2 furlong more, where the top horse ran a 40 Beyer last time. Its probably a mistake, but something like this is fireable and it isn't like he is loaded with horses.

(look at the 130k buy from the Mongolians in the 1st, probably one of the biggest gypsy org's out there). F'n amazing
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Old 09-06-2012, 08:05 PM
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Real good example on Sunday at Arlington. Look at 1st race and 9th race.
Yep. There are dozens of similar examples every day from tracks all over the country.


I'm probably going to give Ranger a much needed weekend off.

I'm hanging out at the track at PID the next two days with non-betting company and going out afterwards.

Will pick up this thread and the win streak one when feeling returns to my body from 30 straight days of this madness, combined with making figures for about 10 tracks a day, betting, doing picks and writing for the newspaper, and still having the time to post about Knickerbocker and maintain a relationship with my girlfriend.

I feel like I just went 10 rounds with Mike Tyson.
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Old 09-07-2012, 01:40 AM
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Today's bum report has an interesting quandry, as Silver Sunrise in the first at Arlington ran coupled with another horse, who was clearly the better half of the entry as they went off at 7-2. Seeing how if the entry had won, anyone betting the bums would have cashed, I'm going to include it in the total. The entrymate finished 2nd and the bum was a well-beaten 6th. So the bums were involved with $9,044 in failed win wagers ($2,710 if you don't include the entry) which brings the grand total to $439,579.

Enjoy your time off, I'm sure this seemed a lot easier when it was just talk as opposed to doing all the actual legwork to make it happen.
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Old 09-08-2012, 10:13 AM
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Back from the one day hiatus.


Bums for Saturday:

Albuquerque Race #7: Mr Caty

Albuquerque Race #8: Plaid Lightning

Albuquerque Race #10: Robyns Return

Arlington Park Race #4: Sin Bin

Belmont Park Race #10: Keltic Fighter

Calder Race #10: Smoking the Field

Charles Town Race #5: Midsummer Lady

Charles Town Race #7: Supreme Notion

Delaware Park Race #7: Special Energy

Emerald Downs Race #9: Thoughtful Guy

Evangeline Downs Race #1: Sorcerer's Queen, High on the List, & Last Sweet Deal

Evangline Downs Race #8: Ho Lotta Chrome and Rebetta

Fairplex Race #2: Miss Ceehok

Fairplex Race #8: Act Sweet

Fairplex Race #11: Kathleen's Touch

Hoosier Race #1: Lilli Soprano

Louisiana Race #9: Mr. Mccoy and Sequoyah Wells

Mountaineer Race #1: Speedy Bullet

Mountaineer Race #6: Starfello

Monmouth Race #7: Crafty Time

Northlands Park Race #6: Goinup the Country

Presque Isle Downs Race #6: Interrogate

Remington Park Race #8: Helenthefelon and Chief Me Now

Suffolk Race #1: Beautiful Insight

Suffolk Race #5: Coby

Suffolk Race #10: Castiel

Turfway Park Race #2: Outabounds
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