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Old 04-17-2021, 04:49 AM
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Default 4/17: Keeneland (6th-10th); Oaklawn (7th-12th); Aqueduct (X-C P5)

KEENELAND


POST-SCRATCHES


6th (3:51p): MSW, 3+, 6f (P5, P3, DD, Hi-5)

Most Likely: #5 Pledge of Allegiance 2-1 2nd
Next Best: #6 Jerry's Secret 5-2 6th
Best Value: #3 Coffee Break 10-1 7th
Exotics Use: #4 Derby Date 5-1 WON ($16.40)


7th (X-C Leg A): ALW/N2X, F&M-4+, 5.5f-T (P4, P3, DD, Hi-5)

Most Likely: #5 Ready for Change 3-1 8th
Best Value: #8 Violenza 10-1 3rd
Next Best: #6 Notorious R B G 7-2 10th
Exotics Use: #2 Brooke Marie 9-2 WON ($9.00)


8th: OC/N3X, 4+, 8.5f (P3, DD, Hi-5)

Most Likely: #7 Top Seed 7-2 5th
Best Value: #5 Empty Tomb 5-1 2nd
Next Best: #2 Royal Mesa 9-2 4th
Exotics Use: #1 Final Jeopardy 8-1 6th


9th (X-C P5 Leg C): Elkhorn (G2), 4+, 12f-T (DD, Hi-5)

Most Likely: #2 Say the Word 7-2 WON ($7.20)
Next Best: #10 Red Knight 3-1 6th
Exotics Use: #6 Tide of the Sea 4-1 7th
Super Add: #9 Channel Cat 10-1 2nd


10th: OC/S-ALW, 4+, 6f (Hi-5)

Most Likely: #3 Loopallu 7-2 4th
Best Value: #4 Nice Work 6-1 7th
Next Best: #8 High Five Cotton 7-2 WON ($9.40)
Exotics Use: #11 State Treasurer 8-1 10th
Hi-5 Play: #6 Finnegan 3-1 11th


P5 Grid:

6: 5-6 (A), - (B), 3-4 (C)
7: 5-6-8 (A), - (B), - (C)
8: 5-7 (A), 1-2 (B), - (C)
9: 2-10 (A), 6 (B), - (C)
10: 3-4 (A), - (B), 6-8-11 (C)

Simple (A+B): 2x3x4x3x2 = 144 x .50 = $72
All A's: 2x3x2x2x2 = 48 x .50 = $24
Backups: $24 (3-4) + $36 (6-8-11)


7: 5-6-8 (A), - (B), - (C)
8: 5-7 (A), 1-2 (B), - (C)
9: 2-6-10 (A), - (B), - (C)
10: 3-4 (A), 8-11 (B), 6 (C)

Simple (A+B): 3x4x3x4 = 144 x .50 = $72
All A's: 3x2x3x2 = 36 x .50 = $18
Backups: $9 (6)



OAKLAWN


POST-SCRATCHES


OAKLAWN 7th (4:29p; X-C Leg B): OC/N$Y, 4+, 6f (P3, DD)

Best Value: #6 Impressed 6-1 WON ($17.00)
Next Best: #9 Cave Run 7-2 4th
Exotics Use: #2 Vice Versa 8-1 5th
Super Add: #3 Shakes Creek 20-1 8th


8th: MSW, 3yo, 8.5f (P5, P3, DD)

Most Likely: #6 Cyro 3-1 2nd
Next Best: #3 Stilleto Boy 5-2 WON ($4.40)
Best Value: #5 Pa Ma's Amos 9-2 6th
Exotics Use: #4 Right Tone 7-2 3rd


OAKLAWN 9th (X-C P5 Leg D): Oaklawn H. (G2), 4+, 9f (P4, P3, DD)

Most Likely: #3 Fearless 7-2 2nd
Next Best: #2 Express Train 5-2 3rd
Best Value: #1 Silver State 4-1 WON ($11.40)
Exotics Use: #4 Warrior's Charge 6-1 5th


10th: OC/C, 4+, 6f (P3, DD)

Most Likely: #5 Seven Nation Army 3-1 WON ($4.80)
Next Best: #4 Welder 2-1 4th
Best Value: #8 Hot Shot Kid 10-1 6th
Exotics Use: #7 Full Authority 12-1 2nd


11th: Apple Blossom (G1), F&M-4+, 8.5f (DD)

As has been discussed all week, Letruska will have a lead and will need to be reeled in and confronted, creating a chess match for Albarado with Swiss Skydiver and Geroux with Monomoy Girl. It would figure that Geroux has the slight advantage being set up outside, but there's very little separating these three. Should be very entertaining..

Best Value: #3 Letruska 4-1 WON ($8.80)
Next Best: #6 Monomoy Girl 1-1 2nd
Exotics Use: #2 Swiss Skydiver 2-1 3rd
Super Add: #5 Getridofwhatailesu 6-1 4th



12th: S/ALW, F&M-4+, 6f

Most Likely: #1 Pick Up the Phone 3-1 5th
Next Best: #4 Ragatagtag 4-1 2nd
Best Value: #5 Triple Scout Late SCR
Exotics Use: #9 Skamania 8-1 WON ($40.40)


P5 Grid:

8: 3-6 (A), 4-5 (B), - (C)
9: 1-2-3 (A), - (B), 4-5-6 (C)
10: 4-5 (A), - (B), 8 (C)
11: 2-3-6 (A), - (B), - (C)
12: 1 (A), 4 (B), 5/SCR (C)

Simple (A+B): 4x3x2x3x2 = 144 x .50 = $72
All A's: 2x3x2x3x1 = 36 x .50 = $18
Backups: $18 (4-5-6) + $9 (8) + $18 (4)


P4 Grid:

9: 1-2-3 (A), 4-5-6 (B), - (C)
10: 4-5 (A), - (B), 8 (C)
11: 2-3-6 (A), - (B), - (C)
12: 1-4 (A), 5/SCR (B), - (C)

Simple (A+B): 6x2x3x3 = 108 x .50 = $54
All A's: 3x2x3x2 = 36 x .50 = $18
Backup: $9 (8)



AQUEDUCT


POST-SCRATCHES


7th (4:44p): NY Stallion Stakes, 3yo, 6.5f (P3, DD)

Best Value: #7 Lobsta 7-2 5th
Next Best: #5 Market Alert 3-1 4th
Exotics Use: #4 Sinful Dancer 5-2 2nd
Super Add: #1 Devious Mo 5-1 WON ($24.20)


8th: Woodhaven, 3yo, 8.5f-T (DD)

Best Value: #7 Shifting Sands 5-1 7th
Next Best: #1 Hard Love 4-5 WON ($2.80)
Exotics Use: #5 Original 6-1 3rd
Super Add: #4 Shawdyshawdyshawdy 4-1 6th


AQUEDUCT 9th (X-C Leg E): NY-MCLM/$40k, F&M-3+, 6f-Outer Turf

Best Value: #8 Orma 6-1 7th
Next Best: #11 Sassy Melissa 5-1 WON ($6.30)
Exotics Use: #4 Esotica Late SCR
Super Add: #2 Willow Grove 6-1 4th


CROSS COUNTRY P5:

KEE 7: 5-6-8 (A), - (B), - (C)
OP 7: 6-9 (A), - (B), 2-3 (C)
KEE 9: 2-10 (A), - (B), 5 (C)
OP 9: 2 (A), 1-3 (B), 4-5-6 (C)
AQU 9: 8-11 (A), 2-4/SCR (B), 5 (C)

Simple (A+B): 3x2x2x3x4 = 144 x .50 = $72
All A's: 3x2x2x1x2 = 24 x .50 = $12
Backups: $12 (2-3) + $6 (5) + $36 (4-5-6) + $6 (5)


Good luck!
Steve
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Old 04-17-2021, 06:36 AM
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I am going contrarian thinking that since Letruska needs to be reeled in Monomoy Girl and Swiss Skydiver get involved too early setting it up for Getridofwhatailesu.
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Old 04-17-2021, 07:11 AM
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I am going contrarian thinking that since Letruska needs to be reeled in Monomoy Girl and Swiss Skydiver get involved too early setting it up for Getridofwhatailesu.
I hear you Jim. Not an impossible scenario at all. G/L today!
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Old 04-17-2021, 08:38 AM
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I am going contrarian thinking that since Letruska needs to be reeled in Monomoy Girl and Swiss Skydiver get involved too early setting it up for Getridofwhatailesu.
That’s funny as I was looking at that horse to being the one to upset the big 2 if anyone was to. I don’t think they are going to let Letruska get out to easy. I’m going to play box exactas with the 5 with big 2 hoping he beats one of them

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Old 04-17-2021, 10:51 AM
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AQU SCR/CHG'S

KEE SCR/CHG'S

OP SCR/CHG'S
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Old 04-17-2021, 10:59 AM
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Both Maker horses scratch in Elkhorn leaving me with 0 horses...
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Both Maker horses scratch in Elkhorn leaving me with 0 horses...
Nacho boxing with the remaining maker with a little mott thrown in
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Old 04-17-2021, 11:27 AM
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Nacho boxing with the remaining maker with a little mott thrown in
LOl Forgot there was one left

Gafflione last 2 years 12 Furlongs Turf with Maker
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Gafflione last 2 years 12 Furlongs Turf with Maker Graded Stakes only
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Expect him to try and win it on front end will be my #1

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Can’t see how Mott’s horse on outside loses this..But BOL.
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Steve,

I hit the CC5 but I am wondering why it didn't pay more. I had the 4 5 11 in the last leg. The 4 scratched and i didn't change my ticket. What are the rules for CC5? 11 was the post time favorite. Would I get the 11 twice or just my money back for the horse?
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Old 04-17-2021, 05:26 PM
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Steve,

I hit the CC5 but I am wondering why it didn't pay more. I had the 4 5 11 in the last leg. The 4 scratched and i didn't change my ticket. What are the rules for CC5? 11 was the post time favorite. Would I get the 11 twice or just my money back for the horse?
Great job! NY rules so yes to the post time favorite.
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Great job! NY rules so yes to the post time favorite.
So I have the 11 twice?
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If that 5 in the last had been an early scratch, would the 9 have been a C ?
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Old 04-18-2021, 04:25 AM
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If that 5 in the last had been an early scratch, would the 9 have been a C ?
Yes. Diodoro's Sweet Tatum (6-1) was my top tab originally but she SCR'd early, so everything shifted up and I added Skamania (8-1) as the next horse. And if you knew she was going to go off at that crazy 19-1, she'd have been the Best Value.

Left a lot of multi race money out there yesterday.
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