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Old 10-14-2019, 12:55 PM
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Default ROI Results 10/12 @ Woodbine

As they say, "the rich get richer and the poor get poorer" and Woodbine on Saturday proved that
axiom to be true. Cruzan cashed a ticket in the 4th and managed to show a profit and gets the
points associated with the place spot. Cruzan's lead lasted until the 8th when Roamin and Starship
Jubilee swooped on by and nailed a easy win. Roamin in 2019 is like the Energizer Bunny. He keeps
going and going and continues to draw away from the ROI field. Congrats once again Tom.
Now for the bad news. Indian Hemp hit a $1007 superfecta in the 8th but by my calculator the
wager was $72 and not $36. As always I never make things official until the results are viewed
and objections are posted. If I made an error please someone let me know. See you all next
week wherever Ruffian sends us.


WIN... Roamin... +$350.00... R 8 $100 WIN---#8 $9.00 X 50... $450.00


PLACE... Cruzan... +$2.50... R4. 3 $25 Place $8.20 X 12.5... $102.50



Cal828 -$96.00

Joly B -$99.60

Real Quiet -$99.60

Ruffian -$100.00

NJ Stinks -$100.00

Plenilune -$100.00

Indian Hemp -$100.00
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Old 10-14-2019, 02:18 PM
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Default Seconditis Syndrome

SECONDITIS SYNDROME STRIKES AGAIN

MY BET ON ‘RECONFIGURE’ LOSES TO A 24/1


Pgm Horse Jockey Win Place Show

5
City Boy Jesse M. Campbell 50.70 20.90 11.70
4
Reconfigure Luis Contreras 10.60 6.50 <=======
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Richiesinthehouse Jose Valdivia, Jr. 6.50
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Old 10-14-2019, 02:27 PM
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Ruffian, I refer you to your post of September 9, on exactly the same subject. The solution to your problem is exactly the one that you stated then.

Surely you recognize the rhyme and meter:

SECONDITIS SYNDROME

YA WIN SOME - YA LOSE SOME
~ OR SO IVE BEEN TOLD
BUT THE 2ND PLACE TROPHY
IS ALL THAT I HOLD

I TRY VERY HARD
TO PICK WHO WILL WIN
AND YET WHEN ITS OVER
IT'S A 2nd AGAIN!

WAS A 'BIZZY CHANNEL'
A 'SMART REMARK' TOO
CLOSE DOESN'T COUNT
ON THE WIN BETS I DO

A LESSON TO BE LEARNED
NEXT TIME WHEN I RACE
THAT MAYBE CONSIDER
TO ALSO BET “PLACE!”
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Old 10-14-2019, 02:35 PM
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Can't you just visualize her "rappin" this little ditty out. Makes me laugh thinking about it.
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Old 10-14-2019, 02:46 PM
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Probably not much consolation to Indian Hemp, but maybe he showed us the way to make our last gasp, "hail Marys" in this contest, although I think it would indeed take a miracle for someone to beat Tom. I think he pretty much had us all beat after the Belmont Stakes and it has only gotten worse since. Our situation kind of reminds me of what Keith Jackson would say when a football team like Louisiana Tech was taking a serious drubbing from one of the perennial football powers like Oklahoma, but would in the final minutes of the game maybe score a touchdown. Keith would always say something like(if you are a Louisiana Tech fan) "let your imagination run wild." I miss Keith. He had the most pleasing voice and was always a pleasure to listen to.
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Old 10-14-2019, 03:02 PM
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MY BET ON ‘RECONFIGURE’ LOSES TO A 24/1


Pgm Horse Jockey Win Place Show

5
City Boy Jesse M. Campbell 50.70 20.90 11.70
4
Reconfigure Luis Contreras 10.60 6.50 <=======
8
Richiesinthehouse Jose Valdivia, Jr. 6.50[/quote]

Not that it's all that hard to do, but you "reconfigured" it way better than me. I'm
the genius that thought it was ok to leave City Boy out of my picks entirely.
Seemed logical to me. He ran and was beaten 6 straight times at the sixty two five level.
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Old 10-14-2019, 03:25 PM
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JOLY => “The solution to your problem is exactly the one that you stated then”.
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WHY IT WOULDNT = $6.50 FOR 2nd IS USELESS IN ROI
*** ALSO
I prefer dividing my hundred dollars on 4–5 horses when possible
* Putting money on WIN ONLY *

RARELY DOES PLACE $$ PAY OFF ENOUGH TO MATTER IN ROI
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Old 10-14-2019, 03:40 PM
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“Can't you just visualize her "rappin" this little ditty out.
Makes me laugh thinking about it.”
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ACTUALLY I DETEST RAP

AS A SONGWRITER MYSELF, I VIEW RAP NOT AS “MUSIC” ~
IT IS MERELY SPEAKING WORDS TO A BEAT
NO MUSIC OR MELODY AT ALL

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Old 10-14-2019, 04:02 PM
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JOLY => “The solution to your problem is exactly the one that you stated then”.
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WHY IT WOULDNT = $6.50 FOR 2nd IS USELESS IN ROI
*** ALSO
I prefer dividing my hundred dollars on 4–5 horses when possible
* Putting money on WIN ONLY *

RARELY DOES PLACE $$ PAY OFF ENOUGH TO MATTER IN ROI
Of course you may place your wagers any way you choose. That's one of the pleasures of this game - the way a horseplayer can try to figure it out in a manner that matches his or her analysis. I was just quoting the poem you had written the last time you were unhappy about one of your longshots finishing second.

I'll pass over the fact that the $6.50 payoff was the show payoff not the place. From a handicapping perspective, the player who likes a longshot (let's call him Reconfigure) and plays him $2 WP would of course wish that he won at 24-1, but would take a lot of consolation in getting a return of $10.60 on his $4 wager for Reconfigure's second place finish. You could have a winning day at the races with a couple of picks like that. You could also finish in the top couple of places in the ROI quite often with a payoff like that.

I tend to be heavily driven in my wagering by numbers and probability. After all, the object of wagering is to win more than you have bet. It's been my experience that 24-1 shots probably finish second much more frequently than they win - if a speed horse, might get to the lead and be good (or lucky) enough to hold off all of the closers except one. If a closer, might make a strong run at the finish and be able to run down all of the opponents except one. That's why they are 24-1 in the first place. Naturally, the most likely result is that they won't hit the board at all, but that's a story for another day.
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Old 10-14-2019, 04:33 PM
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“ $6.50 payoff was the show payoff not the place “
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPSADOODLE

~ However
Even a $10.60 PLACE Would not have been enough to matter in ROI
With subtracting $100 from the total winnings of the day

Unless one of my other wagers hit the big time

So I shall continue with my usual Frisky Feline Fetish Of WIN WAGERS
And Whine With Wilted Whiskers When They Run 2nd
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Old 10-14-2019, 05:54 PM
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CAL CHIRPS
“Can't you just visualize her "rappin" this little ditty out.
Makes me laugh thinking about it.”
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ACTUALLY I DETEST RAP

AS A SONGWRITER MYSELF, I VIEW RAP NOT AS “MUSIC” ~
IT IS MERELY SPEAKING WORDS TO A BEAT
NO MUSIC OR MELODY AT ALL

*** Check Out Pages 4 + 5 For Lyrics On My CDs

{{ RUFFIAN333.com }}
I agree with Ruffian, all you hear with RAP is curse words and can hardly understand what ever they are trying to say. Give me the gold days of music
preferably COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 10-14-2019, 05:57 PM
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CAL CHIRPS
“Can't you just visualize her "rappin" this little ditty out.
Makes me laugh thinking about it.”
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

ACTUALLY I DETEST RAP

AS A SONGWRITER MYSELF, I VIEW RAP NOT AS “MUSIC” ~
IT IS MERELY SPEAKING WORDS TO A BEAT
NO MUSIC OR MELODY AT ALL

*** Check Out Pages 4 + 5 For Lyrics On My CDs

{{ RUFFIAN333.com }}
Actually, I couldn't agree with you more. Rap is not my thing either. My preferences in music are eclectic. I like anything from classic to country. Funny, I've been spending a lot of time viewing you tube videos on how to repair a bathroom floor and for some reason a lot of Dixie Chick videos come up. I had just about forgotten just how great their music was and so I listened and watched their videos for several hours one night. Great music!! On another night my son was home visiting and so he and I were watching Better Call Saul which is a hoot. In one episode, an Ernest Tubb rendition of "Waltz Across Texas" comes up. Brought back memories of me riding around with my Dad when I was a little kid. He always had Ernest Tubb or Eddie Arnold or Hank Williams playing on the radio. Seems like an eon ago.
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{{ROAMIN}}
“...I agree with Ruffian, all you hear with RAP is curse words and can hardly understand what ever they are trying to say.
Give me the gold days of music preferably COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!”
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THANKS ROAMIN

BTW
1/2 OF MY CD SONGS ARE COUNTRY!
Lyrics Are On Page #5 Of My Website

Some CDs In My Truck
Dixie Chicks
Vern Gosden
Conway Twitty
Merle Haggard
Stevie Nicks / Fleetwood Mac
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I saw Dixie Chicks in Little Rock and Fleetwood Mac in Memphis and Conway Twitty right here in Hot Springs. I've seen a few here and there. I saw Johnny Cash and Waylon Jennings in Buffalo, NY in 1966.

Here is a strange combination. I saw Jack Benny and Wayne Newton together in 1966 in Buffalo.

I've seen a lot of acts in Vegas, but I don't think any of them were Country.
Hope to see Garth out there one day. Not sure what they charge for those tickets, but guessing four or five hundred? Probably worth it. Would give my first born to see the Eagles.
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Old 10-14-2019, 07:07 PM
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{CAL} = “Hope to see Garth out there...”

THE DANCE (Garth Brooks) My #1 Favorite Lyric to Live By
My Personal Mantra Of Life
Having loved and lost so much

“If I knew how it all Would End
Would I have changed a thing....
I may have missed the pain
But I would have missed The Dance”
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THE DANCE (Garth Brooks) My #1 Favorite Lyric to Live By

That has got to be one of the all time great songs. Another of his songs that I like a lot is The River.
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I think we are really kindred spirits ma'am, but surely you like the Eagles too? Desperado, New Kid in Town, Tequila Sunrise, Hotel California and many more.
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“surely you like the Eagles too? Desperado, .”
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DESPERADO!!!

Check Out Page 5 Of MY WEBSITE
{Broken Heart ~ Shattered Dreams }
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