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clyde · #**1401** 08-21-2011, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Your theory holds. Huff did in fact pitch better than Jimenez this series!!

clyde · #**1402** 08-21-2011, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Really clyde, in Ubaldo's next scheduled turn couldn't we just start Sipp and go Sipp 2, Smith 2, R Perez 2, Pestano 2 and C Perez 1?? don't we pretty much do that anyway in his starts??

!!!!!!!

horseofcourse · #**1403** 08-21-2011, 03:02 PM

So we've scored a minimum of 7 runs in all 4 Obaldo starts and are likely going to 1-3 in those games. Detroit made it through their bad relief pitchers with only 2 runs. They got their two good guys now so they should be ok.

clyde · #**1404** 08-21-2011, 03:22 PM

I think people are now finding out why Colorado traded this guy.What they will never understand is why we wanted jim.

horseofcourse · #**1405** 08-21-2011, 03:31 PM

Alex White got called up, he'll make a start for Colorado this week. Pomeranz had an emergency apendectomy after his great start and his season is done. (Antonneti had inside info on him getting a bad appendix!!)

horseofcourse · #**1406** 08-21-2011, 03:41 PM

4.2 shutout for Smith, Pestano, Sipp. Shame Jimenot couldn't hold them to 6!!

slotdirt · #**1407** 08-21-2011, 04:07 PM

That game was going to be devastating for somebody's psyche. Rather Cleveland than the Tiggers.

clyde · #**1408** 08-21-2011, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse

4.2 shutout for Smith, Pestano, Sipp. Shame Jimenot couldn't hold them to 6!!

All things being equal.....Wedgie left Jimenot in just long enough to give up that 8th earned run in 3.1 innings, otherwise it's tied.

Seriously...I think Acta gets a 5 million doller bonus from Detroit should they win the division.He certainly isn't on our side.

horseofcourse · #**1409** 08-22-2011, 12:48 AM

By and large I don't have too many problems with Acta. A few odd decisions, he didn't make this trade though. The team rarely packs it in during a game. I think he sets that tone. I can see trying to get an inning or two more from Obaldo...the team does have 4 games in the next 3 days. It's not his fault the guy blows.

slotdirt · #**1410** 08-22-2011, 06:19 AM

I don't see how one can fault Acta for trying to roll a few more innings out of Jimenez yesterday, especially when one considers how much the bullpen had to be used on Saturday. Your ace should be able to give you more than 3.1 innings.

clyde · #**1411** 08-22-2011, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse

By and large I don't have too many problems with Acta. A few odd decisions, he didn't make this trade though. The team rarely packs it in during a game. I think he sets that tone. I can see trying to get an inning or two more from Obaldo...the team does have 4 games in the next 3 days. It's not his fault the guy blows.

r u disagreeing with me......hc ?

I know all this, but I do have a barrel o' shock when I see a pitcher who has already given up 7 earned in 3, in a very important game--mind you,brought back out because by golly he just might go 6 hitless innings. When Jimenot put the Tiger uniform on....how long did Leyland go with jim?

clyde · #**1412** 08-22-2011, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

I don't see how one can fault Acta for trying to roll a few more innings out of Jimenez yesterday, especially when one considers how much the bullpen had to be used on Saturday. Your ace should be able to give you more than 3.1 innings.

Don't make me call you Ryan names.

slotdirt · #**1413** 08-22-2011, 11:59 AM

I guess Masterson is the Indians true "ace" though, right?

TIgers have 36 games left, only 10 against teams with winning records (four TB, six CLE). Even if they go 18-18, the Indians and/or White Sox would have to go something like 23-13 or so to take the division.

Now that I've officially jinxed the Tigers, congrats to the Indians for the Al Central crown!

clyde · #**1414** 08-22-2011, 12:38 PM

Masterson would be many teams true ace.

Jimenot is our 6th starter by virtue of the era's for pitchers who have stated this year.In fact...he's probably our no. 2 long reliever.

We got him to ensure we fail this year.

slotdirt · #**1415** 08-22-2011, 12:44 PM

Well, most Indians fans that I know think they're a "lock" for the division next year.

The good news on our end is that the contracts of "Singlio" Ordonez and Carlos Guillen both come off the books after 2011. If the Tigers could take that extra $22 million or so and point it towards a starter and middle infielder, there's no reason they can't contend with the Indians again next year.

clyde · #**1416** 08-22-2011, 12:51 PM

I am not one of those.

There are huge questions at third,first and even second as well as 2 outfield spots.Santana has DH written all over him and Kipness hasn't played nearly long enough to feel safe.

The pitching is swell ,but will always be less as they keep trying to force feed Jimenot so as to try and convince the trade was a sage one.

Imagine if they could throw out Drew P. and A. White next year.That would make them contenders.

But we seem to have lost them.

slotdirt · #**1417** 08-22-2011, 01:03 PM

Well, at least Drew P. is out for the year with an appendectomy. Silver lining.

clyde · #**1418** 08-22-2011, 01:20 PM

Well that wasn't very nice.

But he'll be back...Shapiro will be hung in effigy by July.

horseofcourse · #**1419** 08-22-2011, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by clyde

r u disagreeing with me......hc ?

I know all this, but I do have a barrel o' shock when I see a pitcher who has already given up 7 earned in 3, in a very important game--mind you,brought back out because by golly he just might go 6 hitless innings. When Jimenot put the Tiger uniform on....how long did Leyland go with jim?

Both his starters pitched 7 strong innings friday and saturday and he has verlander going monday, he had quite a bit more bullpen leeway yesterday than Acta. I understand trying to get at least 4 from him!!

clyde · #**1420** 08-22-2011, 03:21 PM