No Wood for Circular Quay

[Rileyoriley]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

I don't think AGS is done by any stretch. . . Todd's great at having horses ready to peak on big days and today was not the objective. . . 75K should pretty much guarantee AGS a spot in the Derby now and he's the only Pletcher horse that I think has a shot in May. . .

I haven't given up on him yet either. I expected him to regress off his last race and then when Pletcher changed the game plan with him, I knew he was toast. I'll watch how he trains and looks up to the derby.
I was impressed with Tiago. Like his stride and his pedigree. The Pleasant Colony line does seem to like CD.

[lemoncrush]

Whether it matters or not, CQ worked today at Keenland.
Interesting to see what his work pattern will be heading up to the derby.

Circular Quay
Notes 2007 Derby Hopeful
Activity type Workout
Activity date 04-08-2007
Track Keeneland
Surface All Weather Training
Distance 5 Furlongs
Workout type Handily
Workout time 0:59.20
Track condition Fast

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

Whether it matters or not, CQ worked today at Keenland.
Interesting to see what his work pattern will be heading up to the derby.

Circular Quay
Notes 2007 Derby Hopeful
Activity type Workout
Activity date 04-08-2007
Track Keeneland
Surface All Weather Training
Distance 5 Furlongs
Workout type Handily
Workout time 0:59.20
Track condition Fast

It's gotta count for something. Looks like a solid work.

[zippyneedsawin]

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

Whether it matters or not, CQ worked today at Keenland.
Interesting to see what his work pattern will be heading up to the derby.

Circular Quay
Notes 2007 Derby Hopeful
Activity type Workout
Activity date 04-08-2007
Track Keeneland
Surface All Weather Training
Distance 5 Furlongs
Workout type Handily
Workout time 0:59.20
Track condition Fast

Glad to see he was back on the track... still concerned about him skipping his final prep.

[fpsoxfan]

Have been doing some race re-caps this morning and I'm really starting to be impressed with Circular Quay. I understand all of the Hoopla about the eight week vacation. There is no question that's a negative, but I see so many other positives.

1. Ran huge in the Louisiana Derby
2. Was ready to make a huge move in the Risen Star until he checked to
avoid the spill. Pletchers comments after the race.."I still would not
want to change places with anyone.
3. Had a horrible Breeders trip and still finished 2nd. He was making a strong
move until his jock took him 8 wide.

4. Breeding. Thunder Gulch

5. Has raced in several large fields. Was sitting dead last in the Juvenile.
Weaved his way through traffic until the bad decision to go that wide.


I hope that Great Hunter and Street Sense run like Affirmed Alydar this coming weekend. The better they run, the better the odds on Quay.
It's quite possible I could see 8-1 or better. Any thoughts?

[MisterB]

Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

Have been doing some race re-caps this morning and I'm really starting to be impressed with Circular Quay. I understand all of the Hoopla about the eight week vacation. There is no question that's a negative, but I see so many other positives.

1. Ran huge in the Louisiana Derby
2. Was ready to make a huge move in the Risen Star until he checked to
avoid the spill. Pletchers comments after the race.."I still would not
want to change places with anyone.
3. Had a horrible Breeders trip and still finished 2nd. He was making a strong
move until his jock took him 8 wide.

4. Breeding. Thunder Gulch

5. Has raced in several large fields. Was sitting dead last in the Juvenile.
Weaved his way through traffic until the bad decision to go that wide.


I hope that Great Hunter and Street Sense run like Affirmed Alydar this coming weekend. The better they run, the better the odds on Quay.
It's quite possible I could see 8-1 or better. Any thoughts?

Yes, save your hard earned money. 8-1 will get you Zero at the Box office.

[estreetposse]

Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

Have been doing some race re-caps this morning and I'm really starting to be impressed with Circular Quay. I understand all of the Hoopla about the eight week vacation. There is no question that's a negative, but I see so many other positives.

1. Ran huge in the Louisiana Derby
2. Was ready to make a huge move in the Risen Star until he checked to
avoid the spill. Pletchers comments after the race.."I still would not
want to change places with anyone.
3. Had a horrible Breeders trip and still finished 2nd. He was making a strong
move until his jock took him 8 wide.

4. Breeding. Thunder Gulch

5. Has raced in several large fields. Was sitting dead last in the Juvenile.
Weaved his way through traffic until the bad decision to go that wide.


I hope that Great Hunter and Street Sense run like Affirmed Alydar this coming weekend. The better they run, the better the odds on Quay.
It's quite possible I could see 8-1 or better. Any thoughts?

Yes, stop writing so big!!!

[fpsoxfan]

Just making sure you can see it!!

Originally Posted by estreetposse

Yes, stop writing so big!!!

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

Just making sure you can see it!!

If everything stays as is and CQ goes into the derby, I'm sure you'll get somewhere in the 8-1 to 10-1 range.
Especially if you see big performances this weekend.

The reasons I like him is that he's never run a bad race (crossing a line through the Risen Star with the fallen jock in front of him) and he has shown a liking to Churchill Downs.
The 8-week layoff is a big concern for me, but knowing that he won't be running near the front or in the middle of the pack, getting bumped, jostled, and used hard early, I think he still has a legitimate shot, if healthy.

[Grits]

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

Whether it matters or not, CQ worked today at Keenland.
Interesting to see what his work pattern will be heading up to the derby.

Circular Quay
Notes 2007 Derby Hopeful
Activity type Workout
Activity date 04-08-2007
Track Keeneland
Surface All Weather Training
Distance 5 Furlongs
Workout type Handily
Workout time 0:59.20
Track condition Fast

In seeing this, and maybe someone will know specifically, I ask.

Why is CQ training over the Poly at Keeneland as opposed to going on to CD to work? And I wonder if the plan is for him to continue working on Keeneland's main, rather than CDs surface?

I said I do not second guess trainers, but this puzzles me.

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by Grits

In seeing this, and maybe someone will know specifically, I ask.

Why is CQ training over the Poly at Keeneland as opposed to going on to CD to work? And I wonder if the plan is for him to continue working on Keeneland's main, rather than CDs surface?

I said I do not second guess trainers, but this puzzles me.

I'm not sure, but I haven't seen any derby contenders training at Churchill as of yet. It could be simply logistical reasons for Pletcher, or more likely, they like training on polytrack.
CQ trained at Hollywood all winter long, so they probably want to stick with it.

[outofthebox]

Originally Posted by Grits

In seeing this, and maybe someone will know specifically, I ask.

Why is CQ training over the Poly at Keeneland as opposed to going on to CD to work? And I wonder if the plan is for him to continue working on Keeneland's main, rather than CDs surface?

I said I do not second guess trainers, but this puzzles me.

The owner wants all his horses training on Poly. Biancone and Pletcher train all the Tabor horses at Hollywood Keeneland or Turfway..

[estreetposse]

Is it a myth or do trainers derby bound really not care for working at Churchill prior to the derby for some reason?

[Grits]

Thank you all for the replies.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by estreetposse

Is it a myth or do trainers derby bound really not care for working at Churchill prior to the derby for some reason?

Street Sense is at CD

[lemoncrush]

Another work: So far, so good.

Horse name Circular Quay
Notes 2007 Derby Hopeful
Activity type Workout
Activity date 04-15-2007
Track Keeneland
Surface All Weather Track
Distance 6 Furlongs
Workout type Handily
Workout time 1:13.40
Track condition Fast