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Old 12-15-2006, 10:32 AM
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Agree with you on Lakeway... prior to her illness, she was one hell of a nice horse.


And then she ran into Heavenly Prize in the Alabama....
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Old 12-15-2006, 10:38 AM
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And then she ran into Heavenly Prize in the Alabama....
I loved Heavenly Prize...it's nice to think she was that much better (7 lths) than Lakeway.... but something had to be hindering Lakeway that day.

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Old 12-15-2006, 10:43 AM
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And then she ran into Heavenly Prize in the Alabama....
And then they both ran into Inside Information on a muddy BEL track.....

One was 2nd beaten 13 1/2 lengths...the other 3rd beaten 15 3/4 lengths.

While "the most consistantly good mare in the last 30 years" was 5th beaten 17 3/4 lengths.....and Mariah's Storm was also left in the wake as well.
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Old 12-15-2006, 10:45 AM
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And then they both ran into Inside Information on a muddy BEL track.....

One was 2nd beaten 13 1/2 lengths...the other 3rd beaten 15 3/4 lengths.

While "the most consistantly good mare in the last 30 years" was 5th beaten 17 3/4 lengths.....and Mariah's Storm was also left in the wake as well.
I guess she was consistently significantly worse than the better members of her generation.
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Old 12-15-2006, 10:46 AM
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I loved Heavenly Prize...it's nice to think she was that much better (7 lths) than Lakeway.... but something had to be hindering Lakeway that day.

Agreed. She was laid up after that race, I think, and never the same.

Plus 1 1/4 was probably not her best game. When she was good, though, she was exceptional.
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Old 12-15-2006, 10:48 AM
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I loved Heavenly Prize...it's nice to think she was that much better (7 lths) than Lakeway.... but something had to be hindering Lakeway that day.
Well for one thing that was the last summer where Lasix wasn't legal!!
And Jones never won a stakes race at the Spa, just like many other Cali trainers back in those days where the lack of Lasix and "whatever else" left their horses "just not the same" as they were in Cali.
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In my opinion, she was the best filly to lose 20 or more horse races in her career, that raced during the 90's. I'll certainly give her that.
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Old 12-15-2006, 10:50 AM
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In my opinion, she was the best filly to lose 20 or more horse races in her career, that raced during the 90's. I'll certainly give her that.

Just edging out Shoop....once again.
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Old 12-15-2006, 10:50 AM
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i found it just slightly tolerable. just moreso than "the other sister" and "the royal tenenbaums"

Matter of fact, I believe I may be the only person ever to walk out of the latter. Everyone else seems to love it, I left halfway through I was so mortified by how bad it was.
I'm with you, I actually hated the Royal Tenenbaums. And I normally love Wes Anderson.

As for the Other Sister, well, I'm just impressed to see you work that one into any conversation.
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Old 12-15-2006, 10:52 AM
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Well for one thing that was the last summer where Lasix wasn't legal!!
And Jones never won a stakes race at the Spa, just like many other Cali trainers back in those days where the lack of Lasix and "whatever else" left their horses "just not the same" as they were in Cali.
Look at what she did at Belmont though, earlier in the year...
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Old 12-15-2006, 10:52 AM
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I'm with you, I actually hated the Royal Tenenbaums. And I normally love Wes Anderson.

As for the Other Sister, well, I'm just impressed to see you work that one into any conversation.
The Other Sister? Isn't that loosely based on DrugS's life...with Juliette Lewis playing DrugS?
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Old 12-15-2006, 10:52 AM
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Look at what she did at Belmont though, earlier in the year...

I think she was housed in Dutrow's barn for that race.
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Old 12-15-2006, 10:54 AM
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The Other Sister? Isn't that loosely based on DrugS's life...with Juliette Lewis playing DrugS?
Absolutely. The 90's version of the movie with the famous line, "I love you Roger," starring Sean Cassidy (I think.)
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Old 12-15-2006, 10:58 AM
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For anyone interested.. you can download the lifetime charts of Inside Information and Heavenly Prize...

Inside Information: http://www.yousendit.com/download/aR...S74oB5TA%3D%3D

Heavenly Prize: http://www.yousendit.com/download/aRaSegOMkY95TA%3D%3D
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Old 12-15-2006, 11:06 AM
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I think she was housed in Dutrow's barn for that race.

Did Dutrow Sr. have the same magic wand as his son?
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Old 12-15-2006, 11:08 AM
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Did Dutrow Sr. have the same magic wand as his son?

No, he was not nearly the training wizard his son has become.
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Old 01-02-2007, 08:01 PM
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new to derby trail but not to horseracing. Bold and determined should be in this group of fastest filies
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Old 01-02-2007, 08:23 PM
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Lottsa Talc belongs on this list as well.
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Old 01-02-2007, 09:33 PM
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A little surprised RIBOLETTA didnt get a mention in this thread...she ran some awfully fast races in the fall of 2000 at Belmont.

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Old 01-02-2007, 11:03 PM
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A little surprised RIBOLETTA didnt get a mention in this thread...she ran some awfully fast races in the fall of 2000 at Belmont.
Super talented horse! Had she not run so lousy in the Breeders Cup she might have gone down among the better fillies/mares to have ever run. 7 straight wins (all G1 or G2) on dirt going into the BC with Beyer Figs of 115-115-107-111-110 in the 5 races going into the BC.

(http://www.bloodhorse.com/eclipsewin...der_Female.pdf)
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