BC Mile - George Washington

[georgewashington]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You are not as amusing as baby bro, but pretty close. I sure do hope you two keep giving us all these "insider tips" I for one can't wait, and I'm sure most on here are as anxious as I.

I would love to see the inside information I posted. Please show me. Nothing I posted hasn't already been said in public. I can't help it if you guys do not read papers, watch television or listen to radio outside the US. It is funny how you guys post about horses overseas without paying any attention to what goes on over there. When you have to have a separate International section on your board, you pretty much are admitting you do not care.

[georgewashington]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

I dont believe the orginal poster - which is me - ever said GW is 100% for the Mile. I think the original poster - which is me - said words like IT APPEARS and APPARENTLY--now if those two words mean 100% then I need a new dictionary. Here is the original post.

Well it appears that the BC Mile is now over. I believe GW is going to go in the mile. He will destroy this field with great ease. What is great about this move is that it may set-up a showdown between Gorella and Ouija Board in the Filly and Mare Turf. Boy what a great race that is going to be. I would lean towards OB because of who she has been up against, but Gorella is where my heart is. But keep in mind that they both have to catch Wait A While--remember Intercontinental last year. Maybe we will see a repeat performace by Wait A While.

You are making your beliefs based on what? Pulling them out of the air? Let me also tell you no decision has been made on Oujia Board. The softness of the BC Turf has them interested. Lastly, Gorella is still possible for the mile.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by georgewashington

The original poster said he knew George Washington was coming for the BC Mile. It is possible, but no decision has been made. His post was incorrect. I guess people can post anything on these boards and nobody questions them. I was amused by his 74% number, proving my point.

I'm looking for the original poster who said he "knew" GW was coming.

The original poster on this thread said "I believe" that GW is coming. That was not an incorrect post. AO himself said on Saturday after the race that the mile was very likely.

It looks to me like you may be the one just throwing up anything.

[georgewashington]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

I'm looking for the original poster who said he "knew" GW was coming.

The original poster on this thread said "I believe" that GW is coming. That was not an incorrect post. AO himself said on Saturday after the race that the mile was very likely.

It looks to me like you may be the one just throwing up anything.

Sorry. I am used to reading a board where people have to stick to facts. Not pull things out of the air. This is the "National Enquirer" of horse racing message boards. Now I see why my brother posts here.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by georgewashington

Sorry. I am used to reading a board where people have to stick to facts. Not pull things out of the air. This is the "National Enquirer" of horse racing message boards. Now I see why my brother posts here.

" Facts " are a pretty elusive thing in horse racing in general.

You should get to know some of the people here before insulting them.

Or not.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by georgewashington

Sorry. I am used to reading a board where people have to stick to facts. Not pull things out of the air. This is the "National Enquirer" of horse racing message boards. Now I see why my brother posts here.

It is no crime to say that you believe GW is coming. Of course its not a fact until its official but nowhere did the poster imply anything about knowing this to be a fact.

Did you also fire off an angry missive to AO about not sticking to the facts during a live interview at Ascot where he said that basically that the BC mile was indeed the race that they were looking at. Since it was not actually a fact at that time should he be accused of pulling things out of the air?

If you think you've provided some valuable lesson about information, think again.

[gallant bloom]

Originally Posted by georgewashington

I would love to see the inside information I posted. Please show me. Nothing I posted hasn't already been said in public. I can't help it if you guys do not read papers, watch television or listen to radio outside the US. It is funny how you guys post about horses overseas without paying any attention to what goes on over there. When you have to have a separate International section on your board, you pretty much are admitting you do not care.

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Originally Posted by georgewashington

Sorry. I am used to reading a board where people have to stick to facts. Not pull things out of the air. This is the "National Enquirer" of horse racing message boards. Now I see why my brother posts here.

Well when it comes to Gorella, I get my information from Biacone. According to him, Gorella is most likely to go in the Filly and Mare turf. Now if GW goes in the mile, then Gorella is going in the Filly and Mare Turf. If GW doesnt, then Gorella is still more than likely to go to the Filly and Mare turf. Now, I also hear from the same person that GW is almost certain to go in the Mile--again, it is the mile or no race at all. This is info from the trainer of Gorella.

[Hwjb]

What a load of tosh has been spouted on this thread!

It's quite simple. George Washington is being aimed at the mile but, as we know, in racing anything can happen. He might step on a stone 2 days before the race, or get cast in his box. So of course its impossible for anyone to say he's going to run. He's being aimed at the race. BTW in the absence of Iffraaj, he's been shortened in the betting, as short as 5/4, but with 7/4 available with Coral and Hills.

The Classic is not on the cards at all, because there's no way they'd chance his stamina in a race like that first time on dirt. Whoever mentioned the possibility of that race needs to get a grip on reality!

Originally Posted by georgewashington

Maybe the original poster should take your advice. Then again, it seems you have zero accountability on these boards. Say whatever you want, nobody in the business cares about your opinion. In fact, with the exception of a few NY people, most have never heard of you. You might want to rethink how close you are with Seth too. I am not sure he thinks of you as a friend.

I never said Seth was a good friend, I said I knew him to say hello to and bull**** with.
But I will say this, if you've been out tossing my name around and libeling me, I do know who you are thanks to little brother, and I'd love to send Baffert that nice little rant about him from you and little brother.
Try me on this one scumbag, lets see who knows who.

[King Glorious]

I'd look to the Classic with GW instead of the Mile if he were mine. Following the pattern of recent winners/runners-up in the QE II, I see Dubai Millennium, Giant's Causeway, Rakti, and Falbrav all listed there and each of those horses were better at 10f than they were at 8f. I think the QE II is a better prep for a 10f race in America than an 8f race. The only question would be how does GW handle dirt but I think the class is there to give it a try.

[Hwjb]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I'd look to the Classic with GW instead of the Mile if he were mine. Following the pattern of recent winners/runners-up in the QE II, I see Dubai Millennium, Giant's Causeway, Rakti, and Falbrav all listed there and each of those horses were better at 10f than they were at 8f. I think the QE II is a better prep for a 10f race in America than an 8f race. The only question would be how does GW handle dirt but I think the class is there to give it a try.

You simply don't have a clue what you're talking about.

There is no way GW runs in this years Classic. He goes for the mile and will start favorite for that race.

Dylan Thomas is an intended runner for same connections in the Classic if he runs well in the JCGC.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Deep Impact may never have ran on soft ground before, but with the way he moves, it won't make a difference. He will skip right on over that track just as he has done on every other track.

Also, I've watched and watched the replay of the Arima Kinen, and Deep Impact was getting to Heart's Cry. The jock on Deep Impact underestimated Heart's Cry and didn't move soon enough. He was too far back to get to him. I'm sure the jock won't make that mistake again.

Now, I don't like the layoff. We will see.

classic mistake regarding turfers.

NEVER discount the ground, it is so important to the turf horse. if he likes ground a certain way, you better hope he gets it before you decide to place any money on him! these horses in these top races are there for a reason. many times the only thing that separates them is a little luck--or in a turf horse, the ground.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Hwjb

You simply don't have a clue what you're talking about.

I know. Just like they had no clue as to what they were doing when they ran Giant's Causeway in the Classic. Just like they had no clue when they ran Sakhee in the Classic. Or when they ran Falbrav in the 12f Turf. Or when they ran Arcangues in the Classic. Or when they ran 3yo filly Jolypha in the Classic.

Simply put, a classy horse is a classy horse. Sure, GW looks to be a miler at best but many horses that run in Europe and then come over to the states are easily able to handle longer distances than they did at home. The layouts of many European courses require more stamina at most distances than America races. I've not seen it anywhere but for my own handicapping purposes, I always feel very confident in backing a European horse over here when going a furlong or two over what they usually ran at home.

[my miss storm cat]

As an aside, Caradak won today..... he's possible for the Mile.

[Hwjb]

The Giant - Group 1 winner over 10f
Sakhee - Arc winner over 12f
Arcangues - 10f winner who hadn't run over a mile since his 2yo days.


There is about as much chance of George Washington being run over a distance in excess of a mile as there is of me not getting drunk tonight.


A votre sante!

[Nostradamus]

Originally Posted by Johannesburg

There is no way GW runs in this years Classic. He goes for the mile and will start favorite for that race.

Dylan Thomas is an intended runner for same connections in the Classic if he runs well in the JCGC.

Dylan Thomas will be in the BC Turf after next weekend. He stands zero shot against Bernardini on the dirt. He might lost by double digits. George Washington would give Bernardini trouble, just like any good miler would. They probably wouldn't beat him, but the way the race would be run would change drastically. They would make any early move and he would have to decide to go with them or not. If he didn't, he might never catch them.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I'd look to the Classic with GW instead of the Mile if he were mine. Following the pattern of recent winners/runners-up in the QE II, I see Dubai Millennium, Giant's Causeway, Rakti, and Falbrav all listed there and each of those horses were better at 10f than they were at 8f. I think the QE II is a better prep for a 10f race in America than an 8f race. The only question would be how does GW handle dirt but I think the class is there to give it a try.

Originally Posted by Hwjb

You simply don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I know. Just like they had no clue as to what they were doing when they ran Giant's Causeway in the Classic. Just like they had no clue when they ran Sakhee in the Classic. Or when they ran Falbrav in the 12f Turf. Or when they ran Arcangues in the Classic. Or when they ran 3yo filly Jolypha in the Classic.

Simply put, a classy horse is a classy horse. Sure, GW looks to be a miler at best but many horses that run in Europe and then come over to the states are easily able to handle longer distances than they did at home. The layouts of many European courses require more stamina at most distances than America races. I've not seen it anywhere but for my own handicapping purposes, I always feel very confident in backing a European horse over here when going a furlong or two over what they usually ran at home.

Originally Posted by Hwjb

The Giant - Group 1 winner over 10f
Sakhee - Arc winner over 12f
Arcangues - 10f winner who hadn't run over a mile since his 2yo days.


There is about as much chance of George Washington being run over a distance in excess of a mile as there is of me not getting drunk tonight.


A votre sante!

I hope u enjoy your new sobriety. Listen, before u want to go off telling people how much of a clue they have or how ridiculous their ideas are, maybe u should open up to the possibilities that they could be right. Or at least that they could be on to something. I on this board from the moment that he won the QE II that he should be in the Classic and there was a chance of that and I was told how I was an idiot, don't have a clue, am stupid and unrealistic, and insane. None of that was necessary. Even if they don't run him in the Classic, they at least will have seriously considered it.

The problem with racing today, especially here in America, is too many closed minds. Everyone wants to stick with what has worked instead of trying something different. Everyone wants to say what horses CAN'T do before they even TRY them. Nobody wants to change the way we do things. Traditions are what is killing our game.

[georgewashington]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

GW will be running in the BC Mile or no Breeders Cup races. The Classic for GW is a non-issue because he is not going to run in that race. GW is about 74% for the BC Mile. If not the mile, then no race in the US.

I will let them know this. LOL.