The Gods have finally spoken...

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Getting rid of whips is something I simply cant understand. Use softer whips? Ok. Enforce the whip abuse rules? Sure. Get rid of them? That is too drastic of a change to the sport, it just is. It will not improve business and may well hurt it. Then what?

That would be a good option. They could use softer whips. But I really don't think that eliminating whips would be so drastic that it would hurt business. I don't hear anyone complaining that they don't use whips in the 2 furlong two year old races out here. I bet there are plenty of people that haven't even noticed.

[tiggerv]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

men should not expose feet unless the are Romans

Truer words have never been spoken

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Scav

You don't have a pair of sandals?

no

[3kings]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

men should not expose feet unless the are Romans

Amen!

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

What Big Brown had was much worse than what Touch Gold had. Touch Gold did not have a quarter crack. Touch Gold had grabbed a quarter in his previous race but it wasn't a true quarter crack. I know that because my trainer was asking David Hofmans about it just a couple of days ago. Hofmans said that what Big Brown had was 100x worse.

Where did you get your information? Is Hoffmans on the up and up? Touch Gold tore apart his hoof when he stumbled out of the gate at The Preakness, the same blacksmith that worked on him prior to the Belmont is the same one that worked on Big Brown for this Belmont. He has been quoted in numerous publications that what Touch Gold had was far worser than what Big Brown had. Anyway someone is not being completely truthful.

Originally Posted by tiggerv

Truer words have never been spoken

My cousin had six toes on each foot.
But they cut the last one off on each foot.

I may have just given too much information
about my possible genetic maladies.

Oh, he had six fingers also. Polydactyl bugger he was.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

throw out BB and the maiden and box the rest?

Shoot. I don't even know what the best way to play it would have been if I was confident that BB would run out. I rarely play exotics. I normally just bet to win and place. I guess if you were really confident that the horse would not hit the board, it would be smart to play some serious trifectas where you used a ton of horses. But even in that case, I still may not have used the winner.

[tiggerv]

Originally Posted by pgardn

My cousin had six toes on each foot.
But they cut the last one off on each foot.

I may have just given too much information
about my possible genetic maladies.

Oh, he had six fingers also. Polydactyl bugger he was.

I knew a guy in high school with an extra thumb on one hand. It was an endless source of bad jokes that involved tag team thumb wrestling and hitching a ride and having 2 cars pull over.

Originally Posted by tiggerv

I knew a guy in high school with an extra thumb on one hand. It was an endless source of bad jokes that involved tag team thumb wrestling and hitching a ride and having 2 cars pull over.

1,2,3,4 I declare a thumb(s) war.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

That would be a good option. They could use softer whips. But I really don't think that eliminating whips would be so drastic that it would hurt business. I don't hear anyone complaining that they don't use whips in the 2 furlong two year old races out here. I bet there are plenty of people that haven't even noticed.

You cant use 2 furlongs races as a comparison for anything. You dont make major changes to the sport without a really good reason and i have yet to hear a really good reason. When the bettors start calling for the elimination of whips i will listen. Until then i think it is people being too sensitive to outside critics

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by CSC

Where did you get your information? Is Hoffmans on the up and up? Touch Gold tore apart his hoof when he stumbled out of the gate at The Preakness, the same blacksmith that worked on him prior to the Belmont is the same one that worked on Big Brown for this Belmont. He has been quoted in numerous publications that what Touch Gold had was far worser than what Big Brown had. Anyway someone is not being completely truthful.

Hofmans was the trainer of Touch Gold. He would have no reason to lie to my trainer in a private conversation. Hofmans said that the horse grabbed a quarter in the Preakness.

Chuck could do a 100x better job than me explaining the difference between grabbing a quarter vs. a quarter crack.

Cannon, Could you please explain the difference between the two.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Hofmans was the trainer of Touch Gold. He would have no reason to lie to my trainer in a private conversation. Hofmans said that the horse grabbed a quarter in the Preakness.

Chuck could do a 100x better job than me explaining the difference between grabbing a quarter vs. a quarter crack.

Cannon, Could you please explain the difference between the two.

I'm about to watch kelly pavlick pound some Euro, maybe later


I believe hofmans btw

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Hofmans was the trainer of Touch Gold. He would have no reason to lie to my trainer in a private conversation. Hofmans said that the horse grabbed a quarter in the Preakness.

Chuck could do a 100x better job than me explaining the difference between grabbing a quarter vs. a quarter crack.

Cannon, Could you please explain the difference between the two.

Hey just to clarify I'm not questioning what you heard, I'm just saying there is a inconsistency in the degree of how bad Touch Gold's hoof was, infact it plagued him the rest of his career if I am not mistaken.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I'm about to watch kelly pavlick pound some Euro, maybe later


I believe hofmans btw

thank you for reminding me about this fight...

[Left Bank]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

who won the Canterbury race?

Prospective Kiss won the Brooks Fields stake,Derek Bell up.HE HE!

[Scav]

I could totally be one of those guys that stands behind a champion fighter.....

[phystech]

Originally Posted by pgardn

If he is all in, then he knows how to take the good
and the bad the media can present through snippets.
He was presented in quite a favorable light with his daughter..

I agree with this. And yet, the snippets of "I'm confident" was a little over the top and agitating....

Originally Posted by pgardn

But I think we all understand that when he associates with
a guy who has misrepresented himself numerous times...Mr. Stock Trader...
that Dutrow himself will be highly scrutinized.

Or heck maybe he just does not care.

IEAH is his meal ticket right now so I can't fault him for his association. In a perfect world, it'd be nice to see him take stand once arriving at an informed opinion, if it was warranted, and tell IEAH to take a hike. But, frankly, I'm not sure Rick would understand what Iavarone does, or has done, other than seeing acheck for mucho dinero coming in every month. And if IEAH pays each month on time, that makes them an even more valuable consumer....

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I'm about to watch kelly pavlick pound some Euro, maybe later


I believe hofmans btw

I don't believe anyone.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by CSC

Hey just to clarify I'm not questioning what you heard, I'm just saying there is a inconsistency in the degree of how bad Touch Gold's hoof was, infact it plagued him the rest of his career if I am not mistaken.

When they grab a quarter, that can take some time to heal too. We had a filly that grabbed a quarter a couple of years ago and she needed a few weeks off. And when you miss a few weeks of training that means you're not going to be able to run for a couple of months. We had actually been invited to run in the $750,000 Grade I American Oaks and we had to skip the race because of the grabbed quarter. I don't think the filly's feet were ever really the same after that. She always seemed to have little problmes with her feet after that. It was a shame because she had never had foot problems before she stumbled and grabbed the quarter.

[Cannon Shell]

I believe Gary Lockett will feel much worse than BB in the morning