Smarty Jones Classic - Page 7

GPK · #**121** 03-20-2007, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Yet another reason he belongs in the Hall of Fame.

I have been good for the sport, haven't I??

Antitrust32 · #**122** 03-20-2007, 03:34 PM

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I understand your point about the HOF, but with how horse racing has been this decade, every horse is retired once they make it "big time". Do you really think none of these horses will make it into the HOF? They are all accomplishing "little" because they are taken to stud, with a few exceptions like Tiznow. (Lava Man has been accomplishing "a lot" because he's a gelding.. is he HOF worthy.. i dont know). Ghostzapper, Smarty, Afleet Alex, Point Given, etc. all taken to the shed when they could have had the chance to accomplish a lot more. At least Mineshaft ran an amazing 18 times. The game is changing so maybe the HOF requirements will be different.

Andy, will you please comment on this post i have quoted. Will there ever be horses worthy of the HOF in the future because of long careers. there are no long careers anymore, at least for horses that win 2 or more triple crown races. How will this change the HOF?

randallscott35 · #**123** 03-20-2007, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Well....he was sore in the bcc. I think his second place finish was one of the best performances in the history of sport. A tear rolled down my cheek when I watched that magnificent animal labor down the stretch that dreary afternoon at Churchill Downs.

Lucky for me I knew he was a sore horse when I saw him in the paddock while watching the live feed from a 19 inch rca in the grandstand area. Didn't wager a dime on him.

Wait a second, were you with Kyroses when you saw him in the paddock?

GPK · #**124** 03-20-2007, 03:36 PM

You guys would be bumbling idiots if not for Jessica and I to keep ya'll pointed in the right direction...

#**125** 03-20-2007, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Wait a second, were you with Kyroses when you saw him in the paddock?

I wish. She was lookin fine in her purple burka in the Darley box. I tried to get her attention but she didn't notice me.

blackthroatedwind · #**126** 03-20-2007, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Andy, will you please comment on this post i have quoted. Will there ever be horses worthy of the HOF in the future because of long careers. there are no long careers anymore, at least for horses that win 2 or more triple crown races. How will this change the HOF?

I would hope not. When horses start getting in the Hall of Fame for what might have been they should tear the place down.

I can just hear the speech " Smartest Jones would have been a GREAT horse, even better than his Daddy, had he not blown a suspensory in his second start. Many people, some who have even been around racing late in the 20th century, claimed his debut was the best they have seen since Proud Accolade....who by the way is another fine entrant into the Hall of Fame today ".

You earn the right to be placed alongside the greats through accomplishment. If for whatever reason a horse is retired before compiling a substantial resume it should not get in. Ever.

randallscott35 · #**127** 03-20-2007, 03:42 PM

Once again, a 4yr old season at a minimum matters. Do what the Bid did and then come talk to me...Keep all horses out of the HOF except those that can't be argued.

Antitrust32 · #**128** 03-20-2007, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I would hope not. When horses start getting in the Hall of Fame for what might have been they should tear the place down.

I can just hear the speech " Smartest Jones would have been a GREAT horse, even better than his Daddy, had he not blown a suspensory in his second start. Many people, some who have even been around racing late in the 20th century, claimed his debut was the best they have seen since Proud Accolade....who by the way is another fine entrant into the Hall of Fame today ".

You earn the right to be placed alongside the greats through accomplishment. If for whatever reason a horse is retired before compiling a substantial resume it should not get in. Ever.

thanks for the answer. it looks like there will never be another derby winner in the HOF.

Speaking of great ones. Bob fox is up next talking about Phar Lap and the Diva from Austrailia. should be interesting

Mortimer · #**129** 03-20-2007, 03:48 PM

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I feel like this has been said over and over and over, the Smarty Jones hype generated online and in print was overwhelming, and somewhat nauseating.

I liked the colt, I was a fan, but after a while it was like revisionist history at work, as Santa would ride the Easter Bunny to a ghastly and unfair loss in the Belmont. It's all about perspective. Since Smarty other racing media "stars" have popped up with the same sort of annoying fervor- remember Rocky? Smarty Jones was a neat horse who deserved some media attention, but not the amount of hype that makes a regular race fan cringe. I'll fall off my chair if he's inducted in the Hall of Fame.

Oh, and I dedicate this to Mortimerdexterfoxworthy.

I would like to give you a nice kissy-poo.

#**130** 03-20-2007, 03:48 PM

Yearling - Jr. High
Two Year old - High School
3 Year old - College Freshman
4 Year old - College Junior
5 Year old - Professional/Shed Row

NFL rules. Minimum breeding age 5...regardless of injury.

The breeders can wait

blackthroatedwind · #**131** 03-20-2007, 03:49 PM

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thanks for the answer. it looks like there will never be another derby winner in the HOF.

Or until the inevitable collapse of the breeding market.

Bystander · #**132** 03-20-2007, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mortimerdexterfoxworthy

I would like to give you a nice kissy-poo.

It is nice to see that your remedial internet sessions have finally paid off.

Scurlogue Champ · #**133** 03-20-2007, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

I wish. She was lookin fine in her purple burka in the Darley box. I tried to get her attention but she didn't notice me.

She was too busy watching the tv screen and formulating her next award- winning piece of writing.

That girl has got some trophies....sheesh!!

slotdirt · #**134** 03-20-2007, 03:51 PM

Hmmm..wondering if Ghostzapper is a HOFer in the eyes of the same folks dismissing many other fine representatives of the sport.

Mortimer · #**135** 03-20-2007, 03:51 PM

Well I didn't exactly have the greatest instructor in the world.

blackthroatedwind · #**136** 03-20-2007, 03:56 PM

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Hmmm..wondering if Ghostzapper is a HOFer in the eyes of the same folks dismissing many other fine representatives of the sport.

Ghostzapper had substantial real accomplishments....Grade 1s at 6 1/2 furlongs, one mile, 1 1/8 miles and 1 1/4 miles. He's certainly more deserving than your mysterious " fine representatives of the sport ". Hall of Fame? I don't know.....maybe.

Unless I'm wrong....and you really meant Spooky Mulder. Now THAT horse is, in fact, a fine representative of the sport.