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Old 12-14-2006, 07:15 AM
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Thanks OutOfTheBox!!! I appreciate it!!!
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Old 12-14-2006, 07:44 AM
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Pine Tree Lane and Jones Time Machine were rockets. I don't recall Cheap Seats as well but she produced the well named Above the Crowd who could run a little.

What A Summer was the first mare I remember really following. She ran everywhere, over anything and carried weight and beat boys. I still have an old TB Record (precursor to the TTimes) with a pic of her winning something in the slop. Great mare...
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Old 12-14-2006, 07:52 AM
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Pine Tree Lane and Jones Time Machine were rockets. I don't recall Cheap Seats as well but she produced the well named Above the Crowd who could run a little.

What A Summer was the first mare I remember really following. She ran everywhere, over anything and carried weight and beat boys. I still have an old TB Record (precursor to the TTimes) with a pic of her winning something in the slop. Great mare...
I forgot Am Capable, she was another Parisella/Sabarese mare that could run.
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Old 12-14-2006, 08:10 AM
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I actually threw away money on that beast the other night.

I don't think Lady's Secret was mentioned until post 81? I know her career didn't end well but she was damn tough when she was right.
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Old 12-14-2006, 08:24 AM
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I actually threw away money on that beast the other night.

I don't think Lady's Secret was mentioned until post 81? I know her career didn't end well but she was damn tough when she was right.
I always though Personal Ensign was the best filly I ever saw without a doubt, but ladys Secret was a damn close 2nd.
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Old 12-14-2006, 09:48 AM
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Fastest as far as sprinting or overall ???? Sprint mares not mentioned of merit are My Juliet---which gave Bold Forbes a drubbing at 7 furlongs and the sixties star Affectionately ... For overall speed, one not mentioned was Bug Brush which beat top drawer males over 9 furlongs in record time in California . Go For Wand and Lady's Secrest also got my nods for speed and versatility .
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Old 12-14-2006, 11:36 AM
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In recent years, Madcap Escapade could really rock. She was beautiful to watch also. Had a great style -- she ran with that flowing yet reckless abandon style.
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Old 12-14-2006, 11:41 AM
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read most of the thread and my racing history only goes back 10 years and since no1 respected her from the time she walked through the sales ring and only sold for 5k im gonna mention XTRA HEAT=) yes she was extremely fast but she had so much guts and heart out there on the track and exhibited such as somebody mentioned against the boys in the BC. i wonder how many people to the day are still kicking themselves in the rear for passing on her when she walked through the ring
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Old 12-14-2006, 11:46 AM
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I believe the late internal fractions were 1:08 flat for six furlongs, 1:19 4/5ths for seven furlongs, and the mile of course was 1:32 4/5ths.
Exactly, and when they turned for home I thought come on Snow Chief, there was no way in my mind he couldn't catch the filly with the fractions she set, than it became quite obvious Melair was not quitting, and the crowd started to clap and cheer her on home, it was a very poignant memory because everyone knew we had seen something very special. I ran to get a good look at Melair, she was so full of herself even after the race, just had a great air about herself. I don't believe she ever ran again though.

I also remember another fleeting fast and shortlived filly named Creme Brulee, do you remember her? I think she was owned by Klugman?
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Old 12-14-2006, 11:56 AM
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i wonder how many people to the day are still kicking themselves in the rear for passing on her when she walked through the ring
A lot of people don't realize that she actually was sold at auction three different times....and never once brought more than four figures!

* She sold as a weanling at KEE Nov for $9,100

* She sold as a yearling at OBS August for $4,700

and...

* She sold as a 2yo in training at the Fasig-Tipton May sale for just $5,000


After selling for a nickle in May of her 2yo season, she went on to win 8-of-9 starts that year...including 7 stake wins. Her only loss, was the only time she ever routed, that was in the Breeders Cup Juvie Fillies. She actually missed the break that day and was rated off-the-pace.

She was a real amazing horse! I, along with many other competent handicappers, were not that impressed with her as late as the middle point of her 3yo season. I was convinced Victory Ride would totally embarass her in the Test Stakes. I made what might have been my biggest win bet of the entire meet on Victory Ride that day.

It was one of those instances, where I got to make some nice coin but my opinion was absolutely not validated on the track. Xtra Heat won a sensational three-way pace battle through unrealisticly fast fractions, while Victory Ride got a lovely stalk-n-go trip from a great tactical position.

VR had to work hard to wear her down, and Xtra Heat really didn't give in until the final 1/16th. I went from very Anti-XH, to a big fan of hers of the basis of that one losing effort.

Interestingly enough---quite a few handicappers thought the 3rd place finisher, I believe it was Nasty Storm, was the real "trip horse" coming out of that race. Because, she totally blew the brake...and was moving best late, thanks to the brutal early pace in that race.

I also believe Orientate broke his maiden on the same card that day.

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Old 12-14-2006, 12:08 PM
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I also remember another fleeting fast and shortlived filly named Creme Brulee, do you remember her? I think she was owned by Klugman?
That name doesn't ring a bell.

I know the Klugman's had a filly named Akinemod who looked freakishly good in a couple of her wins. I have a friend who is a big fan of hers.

She ran a 119 Beyer in one of her wins.
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Old 12-14-2006, 12:11 PM
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Interestingly enough---quite a few handicappers thought the 3rd place finisher, I believe it was Nasty Storm, was the real "trip horse" coming out of that race. Because, she totally blew the brake...and was moving best late, thanks to the brutal early pace in that race.

I needed her for second.

Did she dump her rider at the break the next time she ran?
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Old 12-14-2006, 12:12 PM
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I actually think she won her next two starts...against much weaker.

I could be wrong about that though.
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Old 12-14-2006, 12:14 PM
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Druggie... you should know this, wasnt Orientate thrown all over the place distant-wise by Lukas? For some reason im having a very vague recollection of him being WAY over his head in a route race.

Also, a filly that deserves mention when discussing speed is Moccasin. What a monster of a filly size and girth wise. Wish I was around then to see her.

On a side-note, she was the dam of 7 stakes winner from 8 to race. Now thats a great production record to her credit.
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Old 12-14-2006, 12:19 PM
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Orientate may have run in that BC Classic. He almost surely ran in the SA Handicap.
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Old 12-14-2006, 12:26 PM
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Druggie... you should know this, wasnt Orientate thrown all over the place distant-wise by Lukas? For some reason im having a very vague recollection of him being WAY over his head in a route race.
First of all....it's DrugS to you (and everyone else for that matter)

Orientate won the Indiana Derby at like 15/1, on the stretch-out, as a 3-year-old...and D. Ranged Lukas ran him in the Breeders Cup Classic next time out. He was on the lead early and was eased late, it was the race where Sakhee hung like rotten salami against Tiznow.

Orientate ran in a couple, I think three or four route races at SA during the winter meet at age 4. He won a grass stake--and him and Western Pride (a Chapman horse) went 1-2 the entire way around the track in the Strub.

He was finally brought back to dirt sprints in the Commonwealth at KEE...and never lost another dirt sprint. I believe he did run in a pair of turf stakes after his Commenwealth win over Aldebaran...with little or no success.
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Old 12-14-2006, 12:27 PM
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First of all....it's DrugS to you (and everyone else for that matter)

Orientate won the Indiana Derby at like 15/1, on the stretch-out, as a 3-year-old...and D. Ranged Lukas ran him in the Breeders Cup Classic next time out. He was on the lead early and was eased when Sakhee hung like rotten salami against Tiznow.

Orientate ran in a couple, I think three or four route races at SA during the winter meet at age 4. He won a grass stake--and him and Western Pride (a Chapman horse) went 1-2 the entire way around the track in the Strub.

He was finally brought back to dirt sprints in the Commonwealth at KEE...and never lost another dirt sprint. I believe he did run in a pair of turf stakes after his Commenwealth win over Aldebaran...with little or no success.
Thanks Druggie.
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Old 12-14-2006, 12:29 PM
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Don't make me make you famous.....

again!
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Old 12-14-2006, 12:31 PM
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Don't make me make you famous.....

again!
Honey, you're way too late... im already in the "legacy" stage.
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Old 12-14-2006, 12:33 PM
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Honey, you're way too late... im already in the "legacy" stage.

Certainly in your own mind.
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