DERBY/OAKS DAWN PATROL: (5/1) Valeski out, Optimizer in..

[slotdirt]

Steve - seeing lots of speculation this morning on Creative Cause. Anything to add for the masses?

[HaloWishingwell]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Steve - seeing lots of speculation this morning on Creative Cause. Anything to add for the masses?

Apparently hasn't been on the track since Monday

[FATPIANO]

Cause for concern?

[3kings]

Originally Posted by FATPIANO

Cause for concern?

Sure. I thing I heard on ATR that he tore of a shoe and a little piece if his hoof with it. He did walk and school in the paddock yesterday and is expected to do do today too. Any loss of training thisweek would have to be at least a little disconcerting at this point IMO?

[Danzig]

when i read the b'horse article about his work on monday, they said he'd lost a shoe on the flight. didn't keep him from having what his trainer said was a good work, and his last serious training before the race.
so, has he lost another shoe? i know i read that one of the horses had injured a hoof when tearing off a shoe, but that wasn't creative cause. it was another derby horse but they were talking about his last race, not something recent or something in training.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by Danzig

when i read the b'horse article about his work on monday, they said he'd lost a shoe on the flight. didn't keep him from having what his trainer said was a good work, and his last serious training before the race.
so, has he lost another shoe? i know i read that one of the horses had injured a hoof when tearing off a shoe, but that wasn't creative cause. it was another derby horse but they were talking about his last race, not something recent or something in training.

Maybe some one can clarify this, i was on the phone with work so I may not have been Creative Cause with the shoe(hoof) issue.

[Danzig]

it was mark valeski:


Jones addressed the lost left-front shoe that may have impaired Mark Valeski in the Louisiana Derby, where he finished second behind $220 shocker Hero of Order. The shoe most likely came off when the colt was coming on to the track when Mark Valeski stumbled slightly.

It also could have been tossed right out of the gate, when he bumped with stablemate Mr. Bowling. The colt ran all with only three shoes and also injured one of his hind feet in the Louisiana Derby.
“Apparently my horse on the inside (Mr. Bowling) hit him leaving the gate,” Jones said. “They kind of got tangled up and he tore the bulb off his back foot. It just wasn’t meant to be that day. As much stuff as we had that didn’t go right and with a $220 horse that was just divine intervention, we have to throw that one out. What all happened that day can’t happen twice.

“He got clipped from behind--by our other horse, I’m sure--but we’re good now. We’ve got the bulb all healed up and we did have to get a special shoe to make sure the dirt didn’t hit him while he was training, to press the dirt down where it couldn’t get up and it could heal, and it has. He’s just getting better all the time.”


just had to take a few minutes to remember which horse, i'd been reading about so many lately!