obama demands vote on health care..

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

i had a good year in 2009 and just found out my raise is 1.9%. i'm lucky though. i know quite a few people here received no raise at all.

i don't know too many people outside of wall street that bagged huge raises the last 12 months. i'm not saying 1.4% is great. but with close to 0% inflation, it's not meager either.

I got nothing for retirement and my job I have gone over a year now without a raise. Yet where my company is contracted to has had a profit the last two quarters and this year declared a .15 per share dividend. Also one of the big wigs of the company received over three million dollars in a bonus.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

I got nothing for retirement and my job I have gone over a year now without a raise. Yet where my company is contracted to has had a profit the last two quarters and this year declared a .15 per share dividend. Also one of the big wigs of the company received over three million dollars in a bonus.

And this is Obama's fault? Sounds like something straight out of the Republican's playbook

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

I do not care if healthy Americans will have their premiums go up because of this.

I care about my own safety and my own safety only. And at the moment, health insurance is astronomically expensive for me, and difficult because of a tiny pre existing condition that does not even affect how I live.

If this bill makes my life easier, but makes the lives of healthy Americans who have to pay more money because of this bill harder.....then GOOD!!!

As I said, I only care about my own welfare.

Just as Republicans do not care about me, I will not care about them.

Further proof that abortion is not all bad...

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Further proof that abortion is not all bad...

But isn't what he wrote basically the Republican mantra? Fend for yourself and don't support thy neighbor?...Unless he owns a gun and will shoot you

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by GBBob

But isn't what he wrote basically the Republican mantra? Fend for yourself and don't support thy neighbor?...Unless he owns a gun and will shoot you

No he actually quoted directly from the liberal handbook. "Oh woe is me, let someone else take care of poor ole me."

He is complaining that he pays too much for health insurance because of HIS preexisting condition and that he is happy that everyone else has to pay for him. Not that he cant get insurance or that his condition effects his ability to earn. It is simply more expensive that he likes.

That is hardly an American ideal, well, outside of outside of Haight-Asbury and the White House.

I mean seriously what person with any dignity says something like that? "I was an unlucky in the gene department and because of that I am happy to be a burden to others?"

No doubt there are hypocrites on both sides. You hear a lot of whining on the right about illegal immigration yet very few of them are lining up to do the work that the illegals are literally crawling across the border to do.

And like I have said before, a lot of the actual healthcare changes arent bad ideas. But the attitude that this particular guy takes is sad.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

No he actually quoted directly from the liberal handbook. "Oh woe is me, let someone else take care of poor ole me."

He is complaining that he pays too much for health insurance because of HIS preexisting condition and that he is happy that everyone else has to pay for him. Not that he cant get insurance or that his condition effects his ability to earn. It is simply more expensive that he likes.

That is hardly an American ideal, well, outside of outside of Haight-Asbury and the White House.

I mean seriously what person with any dignity says something like that? "I was an unlucky in the gene department and because of that I am happy to be a burden to others?"

No doubt there are hypocrites on both sides. You hear a lot of whining on the right about illegal immigration yet very few of them are lining up to do the work that the illegals are literally crawling across the border to do.

And like I have said before, a lot of the actual healthcare changes arent bad ideas. But the attitude that this particular guy takes is sad.

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

No he actually quoted directly from the liberal handbook. "Oh woe is me, let someone else take care of poor ole me."

He is complaining that he pays too much for health insurance because of HIS preexisting condition and that he is happy that everyone else has to pay for him. Not that he cant get insurance or that his condition effects his ability to earn. It is simply more expensive that he likes.

That is hardly an American ideal, well, outside of outside of Haight-Asbury and the White House.

I mean seriously what person with any dignity says something like that? "I was an unlucky in the gene department and because of that I am happy to be a burden to others?"

No doubt there are hypocrites on both sides. You hear a lot of whining on the right about illegal immigration yet very few of them are lining up to do the work that the illegals are literally crawling across the border to do.

And like I have said before, a lot of the actual healthcare changes arent bad ideas. But the attitude that this particular guy takes is sad.

No I am not happy that I have a preexisting condition. No I am not happy that I need some help from the liberal side.

I am saying I will vote for anything that supports my cause, and if that goes against your cause,

TOUGH LUCK.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

No I am not happy that I have a preexisting condition. No I am not happy that I need some help from the liberal side.

I am saying I will vote for anything that supports my cause, and if that goes against your cause,

TOUGH LUCK.

[letswastemoney]

I do not support the government intervening in other types of business. I would not support government intervention when it comes the the electronics industry for instance, because no one needs televisions or laptops to survive.

But I support more accessible care if it means saving human lives. ANYONE can get into a circumstance where for whatever reason, they lose their job and health insurance and something unforeseen happens.

What happens then?

Are profit making insurance companies going to back you then? The way the system is set up is inhumane, even to those who want to find a job.

You think it's so easy for everyone to find a job?? I have a part time job now, but there have been periods of my life where I went out every single day to every store/business I could find to apply for anything they have, and get turned down. You may have a steady job. That doesn't mean everyone that works hard at finding a steady job will find one.

Just because YOU have a nice, steady situation, does not mean everyone else in this country does. The people voted these people in government in, and this is what government voted for. If anyone doesn't like it, I suggest working harder to get your conservative heroes voted in office.

In any case, I find anyone's human life, hard working or not, important.

We are not animals, we are supposed to be a species of higher intelligence with the means for curing major diseases.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

No I am not happy that I have a preexisting condition. No I am not happy that I need some help from the liberal side.

I am saying I will vote for anything that supports my cause, and if that goes against your cause,

TOUGH LUCK.

This isn't the Land of Make Believe. Everyone doesn't get a trophy or a pony. Screwing over future generations which is all the last 25 years of government has done with their debt won't help what's leftover...but then again you don't care about anyone but yourself so what difference does it make.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

I do not support the government intervening in other types of business. I would not support government intervention when it comes the the electronics industry for instance, because no one needs televisions or laptops to survive.

But I support more accessible care if it means saving human lives. ANYONE can get into a circumstance where for whatever reason, they lose their job and health insurance and something unforeseen happens.

What happens then?

Are profit making insurance companies going to back you then? The way the system is set up is inhumane, even to those who want to find a job.

You think it's so easy for everyone to find a job?? I have a part time job now, but there have been periods of my life where I went out every single day to every store/business I could find to apply for anything they have, and get turned down. You may have a steady job. That doesn't mean everyone that works hard at finding a steady job will find one.

Just because YOU have a nice, steady situation, does not mean everyone else in this country does. The people voted these people in government in, and this is what government voted for. If anyone doesn't like it, I suggest working harder to get your conservative heroes voted in office.

In any case, I find anyone's human life, hard working or not, important.

We are not animals, we are supposed to be a species of higher intelligence with the means for curing major diseases.

You do realize that the "profit-making" insurance companies are going to get millions of great (young/healthy) clients handed to him by this legislation, right? Or the that that a lot of the financial burden of this law falls directly onto businesses that are already hurting which will make it even harder to find jobs as they contract to get under the limits or simply make less money which means they hire fewer people and pay them less? That the someone who will eventually pay the price for this law is me and you and the generations for as far as you can see?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

This isn't the Land of Make Believe. Everyone doesn't get a trophy or a pony. Screwing over future generations which is all the last 25 years of government has done with their debt won't help what's leftover...but then again you don't care about anyone but yourself so what difference does it make.

I want a pony. I always wanted a pony. I had a turtle. But I wanted a pony. Finally, as soon as I turned 18, I bought my first pony. He was 16.1, but what the hey

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

I want a pony. I always wanted a pony. I had a turtle. But I wanted a pony. Finally, as soon as I turned 18, I bought my first pony. He was 16.1, but what the hey

At least you can make soup out of turtles...

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

At least you can make soup out of turtles...

When I first moved to KY, I lived on a private TB farm. Sunflowers for dove season, a big pond for snapping turtle hunting. I had been there two days, when the managers wife dropped off a little welcome dinner dish, breaded snapping turtle.

[Cannon Shell]

Turtle burgoo

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by GBBob

And this is Obama's fault? Sounds like something straight out of the Republican's playbook

Sounds like your happy with O'Dumbass ruining this country.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

No I am not happy that I have a preexisting condition. No I am not happy that I need some help from the liberal side.

I am saying I will vote for anything that supports my cause, and if that goes against your cause,

TOUGH LUCK.

You and a road sign have something in common. Its called one way.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

No he actually quoted directly from the liberal handbook. "Oh woe is me, let someone else take care of poor ole me."

He is complaining that he pays too much for health insurance because of HIS preexisting condition and that he is happy that everyone else has to pay for him. Not that he cant get insurance or that his condition effects his ability to earn. It is simply more expensive that he likes.

That is hardly an American ideal, well, outside of outside of Haight-Asbury and the White House.

I mean seriously what person with any dignity says something like that? "I was an unlucky in the gene department and because of that I am happy to be a burden to others?"

No doubt there are hypocrites on both sides. You hear a lot of whining on the right about illegal immigration yet very few of them are lining up to do the work that the illegals are literally crawling across the border to do.

And like I have said before, a lot of the actual healthcare changes arent bad ideas. But the attitude that this particular guy takes is sad.

Sounds like he likes to get a handout. Im sure he will vote for O'Dumbass in 2012. At least that will be one vote he can count on. Maybe O'Dumbass will give him a bribe also, just like he has been giving his Democrat cronies. This isnt directed towards you Cannon Shell.

[jms62]

The current healthcare system is fine the way it is unless of course you actually get sick and need to use it or worse get sick and lose your job and have to change insurance carriers. These guys will agree, there is nothing wrong with the system http://hcrenewal.blogspot.com/2005/0...-ceo-make.html

[Smooth Operator]

Good to see BO taking some shots at the pathetic, do-nothing cons.

Wondering when the "asteroid" was gunna come crashing down after he signed the health bill … LOL … too funny