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![]() Hopefully something like this won't hurt the show. I look forward to the 3 hours every afternoon.
I would not renew my Sirius if the show were gone.
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I'm not guaranteeing, or even advocating foul play, but I would guess there was no deep inquiry into the deaths, by an unbiased group (none exists in racing). |
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If 3 human athletes being coached or trained by one person died in similar circumstances, I believe there would be well-warranted suspicion. |
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Cant really compare this to humans becuase horses die from things that humans easily recover from. Also the fact that he trains over 200 horses makes it less unusual than a guy who has 20 and the same problem. |
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They all ran freaky races. Freedom's Daughter dueled in an insane pace and drew off like a machine and Left Bank's Whitney was a devastating performance. He sat off a Jerkens horse who set a ridiculous pace and destroyed Street Cry among others. Street Cry was coming off his blowout ( and 122 Beyer ) of Congaree in the Foster. |
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![]() I was not nearly as "involved" in racing back then as now (and by involved, I mean a fan), so I don't have specific information. I'm looking at this with no pre-conceived notions, I just feel it is REASONABLE to be suspicious. I don't think Pletcher's stable was that large back in 2002, but I don't know for sure.
Also, there is speculation that this was right around the time he started his relationship with Dr. Allday. |
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![]() note also that left banks demise was announced in october. his initial surgery was in august. these three horses didn't die within eleven days of one another. certainly not unheard of however for more than one horse in a barn to suffer an illness at the same time.
but golfer if there is no suggestion of foul play, etc, what are you suggesting about these 'illnesses' as you put it? |
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i try to give people the benefit of the doubt. til there is sufficient proof of wrongdoing, i see no reason to suggest at all that there could be something funny going on. |
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![]() What everyone is dancing around with their not-too-subtle insinuations is that the only explaination some buy for an unexpectedly exceptional performance by a horse is drug abuse.
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But I tend to consider that for trainers that have multiple, repeated drug positives over the years in their histories, rather than for those that do not.
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