Met Mile - Page 6

#**101** 05-28-2007, 10:08 PM

Lawyer Ron haters could see it was gonna be bad with the start. He ran way too hard early to catch back up and was game down the stretch going 4 wide on the turn home. I see nothing wrong with the effort except he still cannot relax at the beginning of the race, thus his start doomed him as he put too much effort in early.

Silver Wagon got piled on early. I bet Corinthian for one reason 8-1 (actually went off at 9-1). He was goofy as usually on the turn home but got straightened out late. This was a tough race for a number of horses due to positioning and bad starts. Silent Name had a horrible start.

Corinthinan is still a talented animal who is just too damned quirky to bet on unless you get long odds.

So the race set up very badly for the major players imo.

The Indomitable DrugS · #**102** 05-28-2007, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by stonegossard

The horse was poorly placed.

With the way post positions were---and the way the race was run---it would have taken a pretty good ride for Sun King to get the kind of circle the field trip Zito seemed to want.

Breaking from post 4, he had three speeds to his inside, and Silver Wagon (who broke from post five) was running close to even with him for much of the early running---and not allowing Coa to angle out. He did shake clear of SW, but by the time he did, he had a ways to go to get outside and circle the field. He could have made an effort to split horses---but that wasn't going to be an easy task either....he basically did what comes to natural to him, and dive inside where he knew he could get room.

If the track was fair to all paths---I'd agree that he rode as well a race as could have been expected---but, to angle down on what appeared to be deeper footing inside, with a horse who notoriously has some hang to his run through the late stages....it wasn't a recipe for victory.

#**103** 05-28-2007, 10:46 PM

There is no love for Corinthian.

Plenty of the players in this race got some messed up moments. But this horse enough speed early on to keep contact (yes I know it was not that fast) and he did his usually tricks on the turn but straightened out nicely.

Corinthian won the MET mile. Congrats to Jerkens for the will the patience to maintain a very difficult horse. He would drive me nuts.

stonegossard · #**104** 05-28-2007, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn

There is no love for Corinthian.

Plenty of the players in this race got some messed up moments. But this horse enough speed early on to keep contact (yes I know it was not that fast) and he did his usually tricks on the turn but straightened out nicely.

Corinthian won the MET mile. Congrats to Jerkens for the will the patience to maintain a very difficult horse. He would drive me nuts.

Corinthian is one serious horse. Unfortuneatly ya will never see 9-1 on him again.

paisjpq · #**105** 05-28-2007, 10:50 PM

it's been fun gentlemen....please retire to your corners.

King Glorious · #**106** 05-29-2007, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by whodey17

Sun King just doesnt have it anymore. The horse doesnt have any improvement at all in him. This is sad, as I like this horse. I didnt understand him being 7/2 in this race at all.

This post would suggest that he at one time had "it". Isn't this a horse that's been racing sinc 2004 and has YET to win a grade one race? As weak as a lot of grade one's come up, he's still never won one. This is not a coincidence. Sure, he's run some helluva races with efforts that would win more than their fair share of grade ones........but then he's had plenty of opportunities against lesser fields to duplicate those efforts and finally win one and he fails to come through. Every single time. What people fail to realize is that when he comes close to winning, as in last year's Suburban and Met, it's because the winners were running less than their best, not because he ran so great. Good horse. Talented horse. But in his fourth year of racing, with as many chances as he's had......he's just not a grade one horse. Even winning one of these watered down events this year will not change that fact. Winning a grade one doesn't make u a grade one horse.

ArlJim78 · #**107** 05-29-2007, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

This post would suggest that he at one time had "it". Isn't this a horse that's been racing sinc 2004 and has YET to win a grade one race? As weak as a lot of grade one's come up, he's still never won one.

Do you want to guess what percentage of horses racing since 2004 have won a GR1? Its minute. What is the obsession everyone seems to have with determing who is and isn't a "true GR1" caliber horse? And if there were some objective definition for a "true" GR1 horse, how many Gr1 races are we going to fill if only "true" gr1 horses are entered?

I personally have no problem with a horse trying over and over in tough grade one spots with only occaisonal on the board appearances. I like the determination, the effort, the hope for that sought after big win.
You said even if Sun King wins a Gr1, he will still not be a "true" Gr1 horse. Why don't you just admit you don't like Sun King? There are plenty of other horses that fit this same description that you never talk about.
It always Sun King and Jazil that you keep trying to make these absurd distinctions about.

cmorioles · #**108** 05-29-2007, 10:23 AM

As predicted, I think an actual rabbit could have done a better job as the rabbit than that slow sprinter.

philcski · #**109** 05-29-2007, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles

As predicted, I think an actual rabbit could have done a better job as the rabbit than that slow sprinter.

It's hard to fail as being a rabbit, but Mr. Umphrey accomplished it.

cmorioles · #**110** 05-29-2007, 11:01 AM

Shouldn't the jock have just been all over him down the backside? It didn't seem like he was really trying to get him to go that fast.

robfla · #**111** 05-29-2007, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by stonegossard

Corinthian is one serious horse. Unfortuneatly ya will never see 9-1 on him again.

unless he runs against in - va - sorrr

sumitas · #**112** 05-29-2007, 12:58 PM

the replay page
http://www.nyra.com/Belmont/Broadcas...o/Video.shtml#

#**113** 05-29-2007, 03:41 PM

Interesting thread about Corinthian back in January. Some opinions changed completely in the span of 4 months.

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8910

Arguably the most improved horse in the history of the game? Something to ponder.

SentToStud · #**114** 05-29-2007, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Interesting thread about Corinthian back in January. Some opinions changed completely in the span of 4 months.

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8910

Arguably the most improved horse in the history of the game? Something to ponder.

That was an amusing read. A large dose of Euro, a pinch of BellBoy and a smidge of DTS tossed in.

The Indomitable DrugS · #**115** 05-29-2007, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud

That was an amusing read. A large dose of Euro, a pinch of BellBoy and a smidge of DTS tossed in.

I think I went on sabatical and missed the post where BTW said I was wrong for saying Jazil's comeback race was far from perfect.

SentToStud · #**116** 05-29-2007, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I think I went on sabatical and missed the post where BTW said I was wrong for saying Jazil's comeback race was far from perfect.

It's hard being everywhere at once. My advisor, Mystic Zelda, prioritizes my schedule now. It's good to have help.

Downthestretch55 · #**117** 05-29-2007, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by merasmag

by the bf...oh well, he gives me $ to bet (just not enuf) CONGRATS WAYNE TO YOUR FRIENDS!!! (haven't read the thread but assume you're around)
did i tell u i want a zip horse in the next few years so i can name it "loose zipper?" ... will that "fly???" girl or boy, i don't care, as long as it can win the derby ... pm me baby...gotta go eat and get to wrigley now

Hey Sharon!!!
Good to see ya around. I haven't seen ya in a while. Hope all is good.
I'll keep you in mind for a horse.
My yearling filly, Ciel Bonne, is looking very good. She's by Stanislavsky, a NY sire by Dehere. She'll do something, for sure.
Darlin' by Day (the 2yo filly that's 3X3 to Alydar) is now in training in MD.
Watch for her. He little brother, Daring Day, is still on the farm.
As far as names go, I like the Zipper one. How about "It's in the Pants".

Oh, Jim J's Jack's Express scratched out yesterday. Watch for this one next out.

Downthestretch55 · #**118** 05-29-2007, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Interesting thread about Corinthian back in January. Some opinions changed completely in the span of 4 months.

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8910

Arguably the most improved horse in the history of the game? Something to ponder.

Pillow,
Thanks for the walk down "memory lane". Very interesting and amusing!
DTS